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PapaG — Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:04 am

Author: PapaG

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:04 am

WAit, is this real? How is this possible? When did this happen???? *gasp*!

Re: Kodama in sil_oh_wets's bevin

earthwizard — Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:36 pm

Author: earthwizard

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:36 pm

Whilyam wrote:

Actually the character I see in Kodama is almost opposite of earthwizard's. He's hard-working to the point of obsession (he's missed trips to the surface to do work). He dislikes any excess in anything. Everything he says is straight to the point. He takes responsibility for mistakes, but he never makes them . And I also don't see him as a manipulator. Maybe he pushes people to his standards, but I've never seen him be manipulative.

Oh, then my first impression was closer after all: click here.

Now I realize that I must meet this man to get a real close up profile...

ooooh the vagaries of second hand information.... oh what will I do? I feel like the rabbit in Alice in Wonderland.... "What time is it? Oh, I'll be late for sure..."

Re: Kodama in sil_oh_wets's bevin

Whilyam — Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:21 pm

Author: Whilyam

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:21 pm

Actually the character I see in Kodama is almost opposite of earthwizard's. He's hard-working to the point of obsession (he's missed trips to the surface to do work). He dislikes any excess in anything. Everything he says is straight to the point. He takes responsibility for mistakes, but he never makes them . And I also don't see him as a manipulator. Maybe he pushes people to his standards, but I've never seen him be manipulative.

Re: Kodama in sil_oh_wets's bevin

SIL_OH_WET — Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:04 pm

Author: SIL_OH_WET

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:04 pm

Quote:

The character earthwizard describes is fascinating -- layered and nuanced. I don't see that in Dr. Kodama's character. He seems constantly annoyed, as if under some strange, tectonic complusion to mix geology and gratuitous rudeness.

Wow! If you ever write a book, let me be one of the first to buy it! You have a way with words!

Re: Kodama in sil_oh_wets's bevin

slightperil — Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:00 pm

Author: slightperil

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:00 pm

Well, I was there last night and I think what you've said hits the nail on the head.

He was somewhat aloof and was just wandering around answering questions as he saw fit and not really addressing us. Was a very odd experience, he acted as if we weren’t even there!
At least he answered some good questions though, I must give him that

Re: Kodama in sil_oh_wets's bevin

earthwizard — Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:50 pm

Author: earthwizard

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:50 pm

tkwiggins wrote:

Well -- that might be excessively harsh. I mean really, anyone who can tell schist from gneiss in the dark deserves some credit!

Got that right....

I was taking the basic portrayel of a full blown negative narcissist... and then, as you recognized, highlighting only the one's of that basic pattern that probably fit Kodama; and, yet, must reserve judgement myself till I am able to meet and profile him personally....

Re: Kodama in sil_oh_wets's bevin

tkwiggins — Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:44 pm

Author: tkwiggins

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:44 pm

Well -- that might be excessively harsh. I mean really, anyone who can tell schist from gneiss in the dark deserves some credit!

Re: Kodama in sil_oh_wets's bevin

earthwizard — Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:35 pm

Author: earthwizard

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:35 pm

tkwiggins wrote:

earthwizard wrote:
He is stoic and reserved, but not cold... no, I don't see him as cold, just a very timid cautious man who cares deeply, but who is not a true communicator.

Kodama is a very interesting character. I used to agree with earthwizard about his dubious people skills -- until January '04, and "let's throw them a bone." After that, my view was that he has a passive-agressive mean streak a yard wide.

The character earthwizard describes is fascinating -- layered and nuanced. I don't see that in Dr. Kodama's character. He seems constantly annoyed, as if under some strange, tectonic complusion to mix geology and gratuitous rudeness.

After reading the "let's throw them a bone", I realized my mistake, and will have to agree with tk....

Now I do see him as a negative narcissist, and below have typified the most common aspects of his NDP disorder (and if he truly is of this type I would say to all - beware of Kodama, and please, do not cross him):

*Note: highlighted the one's I see in him from tk's judgement, others may see bits and pieces of Kodama from their own experience. I have not known him or met him, so can only observe from a distance and through transcripts. So to be fair, I need to meet these people to give a complete background profile.

1. Self-centered. His needs are paramount.

2. No remorse for mistakes or misdeeds.

3. Unreliable, undependable.

4. Does not care about the consequences of his actions.

5. Projects his faults on to others. High
blaming behavior; never his fault.

6. Little if any conscience.

. 7. Insensitive to needs and feelings of others.
8. Has a good front (persona) to impress and exploit others.

9. Low stress tolerance. Easy to anger and rage.

10. People are to be manipulated for his needs.

11. Rationalizes easily. Twists conversation to his gain at other’s expense. If trapped, keeps
talking, changes the subject or gets angry.

12. Pathological lying.

13. Tremendous need to control situations, conversations, others.

14. No real values. Mostly situational.

15. Often perceived as caring and understanding and uses this to manipulate.

16. Angry, mercurial, moods.

17. Uses sex to control

18. Does not share ideas, feelings, emotions.

19. Conversation controller. Must have the first and last word.

20. Is very slow to forgive others. Hangs onto resentment.

21. Secret life. Hides money, friends, activities.

22. Likes annoying others. Likes to create chaos and disrupt for no reason.

23. Moody - switches from nice guy to anger without much provocation.

24. Repeatedly fails to honor financial obligations.

25. Seldom expresses appreciation.

26. Grandiose. Convinced he knows more than others and is correct in all he does.

27. Lacks ability to see how he comes across to others. Defensive when confronted with his behavior. Never his fault.

28. Can get emotional, tearful. This is about show or frustration rather than sorrow.

29. He breaks woman's spirits to keep them dependent.

30. Needs threats, intimidations to keep others close to him.

31. Sabotages partner. Wants her to be happy only through him and to have few or no outside interests and acquaintances.

32. Highly contradictory.

33. Convincing. Must convince people to side with him.

34. Hides his real self. Always “on”

35. Kind only if he's getting from you what he wants.

36. He has to be right. He has to win. He has to look good.

37. He announces, not discusses. He tells, not asks.

38. Does not discuss openly, has a hidden agenda.

39. Controls money of others but spends freely on himself.

40. Unilateral condition of, "I'm OK and justified so I don't need to hear your position or ideas"

41. Always feels misunderstood.

42. You feel miserable with this person. He drains you.

43. Does not listen because he does not care.

44. His feelings are discussed, not the partners.

45. Is not interested in problem-solving..

46. Very good at reading people, so he can manipulate them.

just another update from ye friendly ranger..... whoops..... wizard, earthwiz

Re: Kodama in sil_oh_wets's bevin

tkwiggins — Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:57 am

Author: tkwiggins

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:57 am

earthwizard wrote:

He is stoic and reserved, but not cold... no, I don't see him as cold, just a very timid cautious man who cares deeply, but who is not a true communicator.

Kodama is a very interesting character. I used to agree with earthwizard about his dubious people skills -- until January '04, and "let's throw them a bone." After that, my view was that he has a passive-agressive mean streak a yard wide.

The character earthwizard describes is fascinating -- layered and nuanced. I don't see that in Dr. Kodama's character. He seems constantly annoyed, as if under some strange, tectonic complusion to mix geology and gratuitous rudeness.

Re: Kodama in sil_oh_wets's bevin

earthwizard — Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:41 am

Author: earthwizard

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:41 am

Kam wrote:

I wonder if Kodama is the Japanese word for curt.

Ah, close, but no dice

kodama: the mouth of a valley
kodama sutama: a kind of monster

Cojak Hanzi Dictionary: click here.

But then it might be that our Kodama is both: a deep mouthed monster....

Re: Kodama in sil_oh_wets's bevin

Kam — Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:24 am

Author: Kam

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:24 am

I wonder if Kodama is the Japanese word for curt.

Re: Kodama in sil_oh_wets's bevin

earthwizard — Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:17 am

Author: earthwizard

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:17 am

SolarShine wrote:

what a bizarre man ! very cold personality I find.

No, not at all... got to take his cultural background and the pedigree in his field of expertise. He is stoic and reserved, but not cold... no, I don't see him as cold, just a very timid cautious man who cares deeply, but who is not a true communicator. Too intellectual, too withdrawn maybe, but this is just a quirk of his persona, his way of being in the world. I don't even think he realizes he might be perceived by others as cold. He is very narcissistic, yes; but, this is to be expected by somoeone as fanatical about his work and duties as he is.

Just another POV ...

oooh... E'rcana.... me whizzes at the thought...

Re: Kodama in sil_oh_wets's bevin

Tayr — Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:01 am

Author: Tayr

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:01 am

Aw, a few months until Er'cana?

...sigh.

Alright, I can deal. I'm really excited by the museum and the new museum ages, so I can't complain. I'm really looking forward to that train in Er'cana, but it can wait.

Re: Kodama in sil_oh_wets's bevin

slightperil — Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:52 pm

Author: slightperil

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:52 pm

It was good.

I'm glad i asked him questions though, didn't look like anyone else was doing much when i got there. Thought the start of the log pips me on that one.

Still

Re: Kodama in sil_oh_wets's bevin

Sosiqui — Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:48 pm

Author: Sosiqui

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:48 pm

Whilyam also posted a log for this event on the DRC forums - it has a little bit more of the beginning.

http://forums.drcsite.org/viewtopic.php?t=1796

edit: And I got pwned by the edit. I dub today Sosi's foot-in-mouth day!

It was pretty amusing to see all the explorers trailing around the 'hood after Kodama. (And surprisingly lag free!)