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Re: Maximum amount of pellets without cheating

Latharion — Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:37 am

Author: Latharion

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:37 am

sideshow118 wrote:

There's a better formula than 30-30-30. Read over the pellet threads. The so-call "super" formula gives you an average pellet score of 930-960 every two hours. That's a maximum daily production of between 55,800 and 57,600. Times that by 35 days and you get a maximum "legal" point range of between 1,953,000 and 2,016,000 points. Sorry. I realize this kind of misses the point of your post, but I know for a fact that there are at least a few explorers well on their way to the 2 million mark. Not me, mind you. I actually have to sleep every-so-often. And go to work. And at least occasionally mingle with the wife and daughter. I just wanted to point out just because someone has more than 1,400,000 points it doesn't necessarily mean he or she has cheated. Now if they have significantly more than 2 million, then I would start to wonder.

The "super" pellet recipe (the 117 minute one) gives an average of 976 per pellet. This is from about three weeks of constant pellet runs (97 to be exact). I have been keeping very careful records of the pellet scores. There very well could be a better scoring recipe, but this one is extremely efficient. I've been able to make over 35k a day if I stick to a two hour schedule.

Something I haven't noticed anyone else mentioning is that you can start the ovens for a bake cycle and then retrieve your baked pellets afterward. This means basically that you don't lose any time for doing the pellet runs themselves. Also of note is that the 117 minute timing doesn't take into account the three minute server differential that i have noticed (i.e. it actually takes 2 hours per cycle).

Re: Maximum amount of pellets without cheating

semplerfi — Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:53 am

Author: semplerfi

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:53 am

MercAngel wrote:

the max i come up with is 2,100,000 and yes i can bake pellets with a score of 952-1000 every 1.57 hours

so lets say i use 4 avai and have just one get the score every 2 hours then would be a max of 20,000 every 2 hours and 240,000 every day and 8,400,000 every 35 days if i was playing no stop

nice job MA.

Re: Maximum amount of pellets without cheating

vidroth — Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:54 pm

Author: vidroth

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:54 pm

dadguy wrote:

I've got it now... More power to the explorers whom send Ercana invites to their other avvies to get more pellets. That's a lot of work (you have to get to the pellet machine from the train and through the tunnels...i.e., no cloth shortcut) and it sounds fair to me. Very clever.

Cheers,

Dadguy

Agreed 100%. Someone who wants ahead of everyone that badly is welcome to get ahead of me, at least.

Re: Maximum amount of pellets without cheating

dadguy — Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:39 pm

Author: dadguy

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:39 pm

I've got it now... More power to the explorers whom send Ercana invites to their other avvies to get more pellets. That's a lot of work (you have to get to the pellet machine from the train and through the tunnels...i.e., no cloth shortcut) and it sounds fair to me. Very clever.

Cheers,

Dadguy

Re: Maximum amount of pellets without cheating

jek — Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:47 pm

Author: jek

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:47 pm

Ian Atrus wrote:

No, it isn't.
Exploits would be like using the old bug to make the Relto tree grow faster by changing your local PC time.

Heck, I used Miracle Grow.

Re: Maximum amount of pellets without cheating

Ian Atrus — Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:42 pm

Author: Ian Atrus

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:42 pm

No, it isn't.
Exploits would be like using the old bug to make the Relto tree grow faster by changing your local PC time.

Re: Maximum amount of pellets without cheating

jek — Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:29 pm

Author: jek

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:29 pm

Is sending an invite from one of your avvies to another of your avvies an exploit? Oh jeesh and I didn't mean to!

Re: Maximum amount of pellets without cheating

Ian Atrus — Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:17 pm

Author: Ian Atrus

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:17 pm

Using other people's Er'canas to get more pellet points for your avatar is perfectly OK. Using exploits is not.
If you know for sure of any exploits regarding the ovens, do not talk about them here but open urgent tickets on the support website.

Re: Maximum amount of pellets without cheating

jek — Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:14 pm

Author: jek

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:14 pm

I tried the sending one avvie an invite from another avvie and then the first avvie collecting the points for both Er'cana's. Seemed like creative pellet dropping until I started paying attention to the score. I found that the score was totally unreliable, it can change by just flipping between 1st and 3rd person. I logged a very long ticket with logs and screen shots about this and it was passed on for further investigation. I then decided given the need to run through the age of the second avvies Er'cana to get those points was getting to be too much of a time eater. Are we getting just a little obsessed with the pellets?

Re: Maximum amount of pellets without cheating

BrettM — Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:56 pm

Author: BrettM

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:56 pm

Reverend Vader wrote:

Does the clock on each explorer's computer actually affect cooking times? I assumed this was a server-side issue. Changing our computer clocks should have no effect.

Rev, changing your PC clock can affect a number of things. It can cause the clock in the hood to advance, change the time shown in your KI, put you at any point in the day cycle of Gira or Payiferen, etc. Some have used it in the past to force their Relto tree to grow, though I think that "bug" has been fixed. I would not be surprised if the trick could be used to jump ahead to the end of the bake time. MOUL does some very funny things regarding the handling of time.

Re: Maximum amount of pellets without cheating

Herohtar — Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:42 am

Author: Herohtar

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:42 am

dadguy wrote:

Herohtar wrote:
Now, let's say that instead of using only one Er'cana, I fill up the other four avatar slots and use their Er'canas as well... 5 * 1,984,500 = 9,922,500

But if you create and pursue with 5 avatars, no one avatar will be able to exceed the 1,984,500, and yet several have.

And it's not practical that folks are playing 24/7.

So, the point is reasonable that there are those whom have found ways to pad the numbers.

Cheers,

Dadguy

Right, but you missed my point -- you can use one avatar to drop all the pellets from the other Er'canas. All you have to do is get on each avatar and send an invite to your main pellet grinding avatar.

Re: Maximum amount of pellets without cheating

RaPhil — Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:18 am

Author: RaPhil

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:18 am

dadguy wrote:

Herohtar wrote:
Now, let's say that instead of using only one Er'cana, I fill up the other four avatar slots and use their Er'canas as well... 5 * 1,984,500 = 9,922,500

But if you create and pursue with 5 avatars, no one avatar will be able to exceed the 1,984,500, and yet several have.

And it's not practical that folks are playing 24/7.

So, the point is reasonable that there are those whom have found ways to pad the numbers.

Cheers,

Dadguy

Dadguy, I have gone through 6 Ercana's with one avatar - getting myself nearly 30,000 per bake. I was using 30-30-30, so 3hrs per batch. Over one day, one avatar can accumulate quite a score going through that many other avatar's Ercana's with invites. That was easily 120,000 per day (4-5 bakes per day).

I didn't continue that - but if I had, my score for one avatar would be the type of figure you are talking about.

Obviously, others have continued where as I didn't.

Re: Maximum amount of pellets without cheating

dadguy — Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:47 am

Author: dadguy

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:47 am

Herohtar wrote:

Now, let's say that instead of using only one Er'cana, I fill up the other four avatar slots and use their Er'canas as well... 5 * 1,984,500 = 9,922,500

But if you create and pursue with 5 avatars, no one avatar will be able to exceed the 1,984,500, and yet several have.

And it's not practical that folks are playing 24/7.

So, the point is reasonable that there are those whom have found ways to pad the numbers.

Cheers,

Dadguy

Re: Maximum amount of pellets without cheating

RaPhil — Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:13 am

Author: RaPhil

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:13 am

Artic_Wagon wrote:

It took me a few minutes to understand what RaPhil was telling us.

I beleive he is saying that he was able to play six Ee'cana at every sessions.

His Er'cana plus five more because he had received five invitations to be able to use other members's Er'cana.

<SNIP>

Wrong gender (I am female) , but yes, that is what I was saying........visiting 6 Ercana's with invitations. To me it was unsustainable, but others may keep going with it.

Re: Maximum amount of pellets without cheating

Artic_Wagon — Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:08 am

Author: Artic_Wagon

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:08 am

RaPhil wrote:

I know how it can be done.

At first, I was linking the one avatar to 6 Ercana's to drop pellets. That was equalling nearly 30,000 points per bake time. I didn't continue that for too long, but if I had, I would easily have more than 1,400,000 now.

It took me a few minutes to understand what RaPhil was telling us.

I beleive he is saying that he was able to play six Ee'cana at every sessions.

His Er'cana plus five more because he had received five invitations to be able to use other members's Er'cana.

If you add to this a possibility to be able to use the computer date/time trick...

I am not too impressed.