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Re: Ae'gura - July 10th @ 11:00 KI Time - Nothing Happening!

AgeExplorer — Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:13 pm

Author: AgeExplorer

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:13 pm

I think there are a lot of lessons that can be learned from an event like this. I look forward to seeing more events like this in the future.

Re: Ae'gura - July 10th @ 11:00 KI Time - Nothing Happening!

OHB — Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:50 pm

Author: OHB

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:50 pm

Christian Walther wrote:

OHB wrote:
Like I stated in another thread...my "event" didn't happen anything like I expected it to. Here's what I thought would happen:

1. We'd do our little skit, the bomb would be activated, and we'd all leave. And all that would take 10-15 minutes. (It took 20)
2. The bomb would be there for the next few days...just sitting there while people randomly walk past poking it or talking to it go to a humorous reply.
3. Some enterprising people would take time to solve it (via the forums) and a few days later they'd be successful in deactivating it.

Thanks for all the analysis, here and in other threads, OHB! Great to hear some of the background. This was really an interesting experiment.

It didn’t work that way for me, because the ticking bomb gave me a sense of urgency (IC) that didn’t allow me to divert my attention from the puzzle and go and do something else for a while (except such basic necessities as sleep). I suspect other puzzlers felt the same way.

One thing I still don’t understand – why the insistence on staying away from the bomb and not saying its name? Occasionally resetting the countdown of a time bomb seemed like a good thing to me. I eventually figured it was just because people wanted to see what would happen when the count reached zero, but seeing as at least part of it was instigated by you – was there a technical reason for that?

No technical reason at all. I kinda just wanted to see how much self-control the crowd had. I had considered taking the bomb offline for a second time for a moment to disable the resetting when you were standing close...that way all you had to do was not touch it or talk to it...but I never got around to it. That and Megan started a campaign of "let's see what happens if we all stand on the stairs!" In the end it gave people something to do. They could watch and observe. Prevent others from going near it, etc. There are a few aspects of the whole thing that if I had remotely considered would have probably precluded me from doing the event at all...or at the very least I would have made a lot of changes. If I do another event, hopefully I will be able to take the lessons learned and apply them so future events run smoother.

Re: Ae'gura - July 10th @ 11:00 KI Time - Nothing Happening!

Christian Walther — Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:06 pm

Author: Christian Walther

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:06 pm

OHB wrote:

Like I stated in another thread...my "event" didn't happen anything like I expected it to. Here's what I thought would happen:

1. We'd do our little skit, the bomb would be activated, and we'd all leave. And all that would take 10-15 minutes. (It took 20)
2. The bomb would be there for the next few days...just sitting there while people randomly walk past poking it or talking to it go to a humorous reply.
3. Some enterprising people would take time to solve it (via the forums) and a few days later they'd be successful in deactivating it.

Thanks for all the analysis, here and in other threads, OHB! Great to hear some of the background. This was really an interesting experiment.

It didn’t work that way for me, because the ticking bomb gave me a sense of urgency (IC) that didn’t allow me to divert my attention from the puzzle and go and do something else for a while (except such basic necessities as sleep). I suspect other puzzlers felt the same way.

One thing I still don’t understand – why the insistence on staying away from the bomb and not saying its name? Occasionally resetting the countdown of a time bomb seemed like a good thing to me. I eventually figured it was just because people wanted to see what would happen when the count reached zero, but seeing as at least part of it was instigated by you – was there a technical reason for that?

Re: Ae'gura - July 10th @ 11:00 KI Time - Nothing Happening!

kaelisebonrai — Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:48 pm

Author: kaelisebonrai

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:48 pm

Yep, it was John Cleese, and it is indeed from Starship Titanic.

Re: Ae'gura - July 10th @ 11:00 KI Time - Nothing Happening!

Szark — Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:41 pm

Author: Szark

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:41 pm

Yes it is John Cleese's voice and if I am not mistaken it was taken from the Starship Titanic game. Which I think was mentioned on the night.

Re: Ae'gura - July 10th @ 11:00 KI Time - Nothing Happening!

tanshin — Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:24 pm

Author: tanshin

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:24 pm

EthanEver wrote:

Is that you talking, OHB, or who's voice was it? I asked this on the other thread but guess I was put on /ignore/ there
It was brilliant.

If you're referring to the bomb, I believe it was John Cleese's voice.

I'll have to get my snippet of the "pre-11" time on Youtube.

Re: Ae'gura - July 10th @ 11:00 KI Time - Nothing Happening!

Tai'lahr — Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:09 pm

Author: Tai'lahr

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:09 pm

OHB wrote:

Massygo also posted a video but incorrectly labeled it as BabelBot hehe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D14I_ZaOYMQ

ROTFL
"Push off, will you?"
Now, I'm really sorry I missed this.

Re: Ae'gura - July 10th @ 11:00 KI Time - Nothing Happening!

EthanEver — Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:20 pm

Author: EthanEver

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:20 pm

Is that you talking, OHB, or who's voice was it? I asked this on the other thread but guess I was put on /ignore/ there
It was brilliant.

Re: Ae'gura - July 10th @ 11:00 KI Time - Nothing Happening!

Szark — Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:39 am

Author: Szark

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:39 am

Now that is so much better now as I never got that close to hear Mr BOMB talk. Very funny better than reading the dialogue as you miss the emotion. Thanks for posting this OHB and thanks for filming this Dhel and Massygo.

Starship Titanic I remember it well.

Szark

Re: Ae'gura - July 10th @ 11:00 KI Time - Nothing Happening!

OHB — Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:33 am

Author: OHB

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:33 am

Dhel posted an awesome video of the BOMB in action!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJPx217gCl8

I must say the quality is excellent and it sounds great with EAX! I wish I could have heard it. I had voice off the entire time so never even heard it working!

Massygo also posted a video but incorrectly labeled it as BabelBot hehe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D14I_ZaOYMQ

If you made any video recordings, please upload them to YouTube and share the links! I know there's a lot of people who missed out and would love to see what it looked like

Re: Ae'gura - July 10th @ 11:00 KI Time - Nothing Happening!

wisedude321 — Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:24 pm

Author: wisedude321

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:24 pm

kaelisebonrai wrote:

Bismuth, it was Allan's number that finally turned the BOMB off.

It was 4375. =)

---

Here's how it was solved.

Code:
3\2!1}251(3{2!201(3}2!211(402!3{3(201(422!4}48 4!431%1%3\3(3}1^1[4[1^4}1(432!4}4%454)1%1%3\3( 3}1^1[4[1^4}1(442!4}3}4!4%1%1%3\3(3}1^1[4[1^4} 1(462!1%423{1*43411*441%3\3(401^1^1&1%3\3(3}1^ 1&201(472!454)4^1%461^1@1%1}1{1{1{1&1%3}3(201^ 1^1(3}4!40412!471*1%3{3(1}1{1^1[1%3\1*3}1*401^

Which gives you this...

Quote:
a=17
b=2
c=3
d=b^2
f=|log((a^c)-x)|
g=|sin((a^c)-x)|
h=|cos((a^c)-x)|
j=(fb+ge+h(a^d))*(a^c)*2
k=int(j)%(1000*(c^2))
code=k+(b^10)-(a+c+d)

By... Converting to D'ni numbers with...

http://www.fadedtwilight.org/DniDictionary/numbers.htm

then you convert the numbers to ASCII.

Plug in E into the formulas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_(mathematical_constant)

and...

plug in: x = position of countdown

And there you go.

From this thread

So, I was only there at the end of the event

zftm — Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:00 pm

Author: zftm

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:00 pm

OHB

Missed your event, just caught the tip end. What did the PM message translate out to say? I never did find out.

Thank you for your hard work

Re: Ae'gura - July 10th @ 11:00 KI Time - Nothing Happening!

OHB — Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:25 pm

Author: OHB

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:25 pm

Hitana wrote:

Ok folks, seriously...leave me be. I'm done with all of you right now. You have absolutely no idea what is going on with me and I don't care to tell you. I'm just doing everything wrong, so just get away from me.

F.Y.I. Leave you be? If you wanted to be left alone, posting all sorts of things in a forum and then begging for response (at least from me) is not the correct way to accomplish being left alone. I can only surmise that you didn't like the responses you asked for.

But, if you now want to be left alone I'll consider this issue resolved.

Re: Ae'gura - July 10th @ 11:00 KI Time - Nothing Happening!

Hitana — Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:23 am

Author: Hitana

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:23 am

Ok folks, seriously...leave me be. I'm done with all of you right now. You have absolutely no idea what is going on with me and I don't care to tell you. I'm just doing everything wrong, so just get away from me.

Re: Ae'gura - July 10th @ 11:00 KI Time - Nothing Happening!

OHB — Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:32 pm

Author: OHB

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:32 pm

Like I stated in another thread...my "event" didn't happen anything like I expected it to. Here's what I thought would happen:

1. We'd do our little skit, the bomb would be activated, and we'd all leave. And all that would take 10-15 minutes. (It took 20)
2. The bomb would be there for the next few days...just sitting there while people randomly walk past poking it or talking to it go to a humorous reply.
3. Some enterprising people would take time to solve it (via the forums) and a few days later they'd be successful in deactivating it.
4. I'd get to spend a few days out of the cavern while "trapped on my arch-nemesis' relto"

Obviously, that didn't happen. And you think it disrupted YOUR life? I told Christine I'd bring OHBot to the concert event to translate between English, French, and Portuguese...and I feel HORRIBLE that I couldn't do it. Here's what happened:

1. Right after the bomb was activated and the skit was over, despite all of the prior testing, the massive amount of people (in a process I /still/ don't understand) was causing an error with the bomb's program. I had to sit there pressing a button on the keyboard every 10 seconds...but when I did that it went nuts because people were standing too close.

2. I had to take the bomb offline, fix the bug, and bring it back in. Surprisingly, nearly everyone stayed while I did this. I thought that it was a disaster and everyone would leave and that would be it.

3. I brought the bomb back in and made sure it was now working correctly. By this time I had already let Christine down completely for which I PMed her an apology. I honestly felt (and still do feel) terrible for letting her down. Although, from what I hear the concert was a success and they were happy with the end result.

To address Hitana, because apparently "No matter what you are going to comment on my post, you are my enemy now":

1. I wasn't aware of your event at the time. Despite when the announcements were first made publically (at the All Guild Meeting), the date and time and resources had already been set for over a week. I had to pick a good date that worked for a) me, b) those helping me (inc. one in Australia), c) a weekend time that would be good for a number of people. Rescheduling was frankly, not an option.

2. Like some others have mentioned, I don't like dance parties that much either. A lot of people don't. And...if I'm pestered enough to go to one, I'm usually only there for 30 minutes. For me, putting my avatar into a room while listening to internet radio and typing "/dance" every 15 seconds is boring. If I want music, I open my media player. They were cool back in the day...but for me the very idea is just boring. And, more often than not, there's very little discussion at said events.

3. Skip this one if you bruise as easily as Natasha Beddingfield. (See how I worked in a music reference? Yeah...) Don't complain to me that not enough people went to your event. First, I don't see you complaining to everyone else who held an event. How DARE they keep people away from YOUR event!?!!? Second, you fail to consider the possibility that people didn't attend because your event was boring.

4. All that being said, I'm sad my event impacted yours. I didn't think it would have an effect. I guess I'll know for next time. But I'm not /sorry/ it did. I'm also sad for those who couldn't get into the city to see what was happening. But, I'm not /sorry/ for it. I am, however, sorry that your event didn't go as you wanted it to. I know you put work into these things...but it's not going to be the last event you throw, is it? At least it certainly shouldn't be. But, hey, that's YOUR choice. If you want to leave, that's YOUR CHOICE. If you want to get in a tiz-waz over this, that's YOUR CHOICE.

Here's what is also potentially YOUR CHOICE: Don't let it get to you! Get over it! You can CHOOSE not to let this be an issue for you. You can CHOOSE to come back and do another event. And, if you do, might I suggest you open with "Final Countdown" by Europe? It would be a funny way to start your show poking fun at yourself, at me, at the bomb, and at everyone who came to my event instead of yours.

But, it's all up to you Hitana...make a CHOICE. YOUR CHOICE. And make the right one. And, if you hold another event, and promise to open with Final Countdown by Europe, I'll be there