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Re: The Gahreesen Wall

Rusty_Russell — Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:37 pm

Author: Rusty_Russell

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:37 pm

Quote:

is it possible in the future to unite the shard public areas so that users from one shard can seemlessly visit and communicate with other shards?

The bridge is the Oracle database. You'd need a distributed database but you'd technically have one shard.

Re: The Gahreesen Wall

Charura — Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:25 pm

Author: Charura

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:25 pm

Annabelle wrote:

We can't say: "All goes well and the world is full of flowers and nice little butterflies",

I can't believe I missed this earlier. Take a walk in MY Relto...lol

Shards

klaxen — Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:56 pm

Author: klaxen

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:56 pm

I look forward to finally seeing the wall function as I began with Uru after the closing of the first "Uru:Live" and never got involved until MOUL came about on the online environment.

On the issue of shards (note: I am not a programmer hence why I ask if it's possible), is it possible in the future to unite the shard public areas so that users from one shard can seemlessly visit and communicate with other shards? (Neighborhood instances could become neighborhood shard instances with a universal public instance area with resources load balanced across the various shard servers) A player would login through their favorite shard and be able to connect to other shard instances through the nexus. Just an idea, but I remember when open source was first announced that that would have been the plan so that cyan could simply host the main vault DB.

Under this idea, the public instance of the city would be the same public City instance no matter which shard you logged in through.

Re: The Gahreesen Wall

Mowog — Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:28 pm

Author: Mowog

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:28 pm

As the original poster on this thread, I just wanted to check in and thank you for all the comments and discussion! This has been very interesting, and has got me itching to try some of the shards.

Mowog

Re: The Gahreesen Wall

AdamJohnso — Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:51 pm

Author: AdamJohnso

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:51 pm

Unfortunately, the way the PhysX character controllers work, the leaves will never work properly in PhysX.

Maybe in bullet when we resurrect dynamic-actor character controllers.

Re: The Gahreesen Wall

JWPlatt — Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:38 pm

Author: JWPlatt

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:38 pm

I miss kicking those leaves. We lost it when the Havok physics engine was replaced with PhysX.

Re: The Gahreesen Wall

PaladinOfKaos — Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:47 pm

Author: PaladinOfKaos

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:47 pm

Loshem wrote:

Collision detection on kickables is all over the place and some that are supposed to be kickable (such as the leaves in Kadish Tolesa and the bones in The Cleft) are impossible to move in MOULa. There's a lot of work to do.

The leaves are weird. The colliders for them are built like oblong hockey pucks, and are very thin. I believe the issue is that the avatar tends to just step over them instead of bumping in to them. More science is needed, and hopefully we'll have them behaving properly in the not-so-distant future

Re: The Gahreesen Wall

morning satelite — Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:05 pm

Author: morning satelite

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:05 pm

Loshem wrote:

Collision detection on kickables is all over the place and some that are supposed to be kickable (such as the leaves in Kadish Tolesa and the bones in The Cleft) are impossible to move in MOULa. There's a lot of work to do.

I never knew that.... I love kicking leaves

Re: The Gahreesen Wall

Karkadann — Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:17 am

Author: Karkadann

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:17 am

Main_Avvie wrote:

Shards are Evil! EVIL I tell You!

Mwahahahahaha!!

Perhaps your right, but without darkness their can be no light.

Any Way I believe more Progress is being made on the Wall as far as availability is concerned, although I don't think its ready for MOULa just as yet. But we do have our hopes up.

Re: The Gahreesen Wall

Nalates — Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:49 pm

Author: Nalates

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:49 pm

At one point in time a cross-shard communication feature was discussed for Open Uru. The idea was it would allow Greeters to work on multiple shards.

Until we get the Cyan content licensing worked out cross-shard communications is way less interesting than having a working Wall.

Once the wall works we can get to the Maintainer's suites.

Re: The Gahreesen Wall

Firesign — Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:34 pm

Author: Firesign

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:34 pm

Rusty_Russell wrote:

Quote:
I understood that at one time it was possible to communicate across shards?
It was certainly never possible in Prologue. Atrus, Katran and Achenar were closed systems.

I concur. That's how I remember it.

Re: The Gahreesen Wall

Rusty_Russell — Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:50 am

Author: Rusty_Russell

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:50 am

A Cyan shard is a server farm with a shared (Oracle) database.

Re: The Gahreesen Wall

Main_Avvie — Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:09 am

Author: Main_Avvie

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:09 am

Shards are Evil! EVIL I tell You!

Mwahahahahaha!!

Re: The Gahreesen Wall

Charura — Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:17 am

Author: Charura

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:17 am

Annabelle wrote:

the wing-case of a beetle

Maybe?

Re: The Gahreesen Wall

Annabelle — Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:10 pm

Author: Annabelle

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:10 pm

What's a shard anyway?

According to The Canadian Oxford Dictionary 2001 Edition, it's...

1) a broken piece of pottery...(hmm I'll go to the next one )

2) equals Potsherd ( ) (Ok, if they say so)

3) a remnant or fragment of something shattered, split, borken (Don't go there some of you that would be heavily tempted )

4) the wing-case of a beetle (Is URU a beetle? )

Conclusion: Canadians live near Santa Claus in a frozen places called igloos. They don't have access to Internet. We still transmit telegrams when the temperature is above -10 degrees celsius

In online communities, it's any server dedicated for a MMORPG such as for URU: MOULa (it's a shard), TOC MOUL, Minkata Test Shard, gehn 3.0 & some others that aren't authorised.

I don't see any issue with having many shards. Some say: "it's splitting the community". Nah!

What's splitting the community is the increasing griefing that is occuring on MOULa shard. I don't go anymore in public Ae'gura and if I have to...guess what? I encounter griefers. THEY ARE THE BACTERIAS not shards!

What was the subject of this thread again? Maintainers' Wall isn't it?

I think we should get back on track with the Wall instead of pounding if shards are good or evil.

The Wall has been fixed on URU:CC environment.

The Wall is supposedly fixed on MOUL environment and we should see the result on a MOSS shard (TOC) in March 2012. Just let's hope we will effectively be able to play in a MOUL environment on the Wall.

From what I understand is that some improvements by H.uru team has made their way into TOC. Some of UO made their way into TOC. Some of H.uru made their way to Minkata (and MOULa after). I think we are foreseeing a greater future and we should stop collectively to look in the past "Grandeur".

The game has been released back in 2003 has been improved for couple of years then all developments have been halted for whatever reason that we all know or we don't really need to know. Now since June 2011, we see improvements. We can't say: "All goes well and the world is full of flowers and nice little butterflies", but we see some cooperation between teams even if some would say: "There's some disagreements"...Sure but that's not different that the real life!

That's my pile of 2 cents