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Re: Hardest, Stupidest and Craziest Puzzles in Myst History?

The Chuckster — Thu Aug 12, 2010 3:30 pm

Author: The Chuckster

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 3:30 pm

Hardest: Fire Marble Puzzle in Riven. Not like it wasn't fun.

Stupidest: The "Please Your Spirit" thing in Myst 4. Or maybe "Try moving the slider. Adjust the frequency dial. No, that's the amplitude. Move it the other way. No, try the..."

Craziest: (in a good way) AMETERIA! That was probably the best puzzle in myst history.

Craziest: (in a bad way) The whole of Path of the Shell. Aaak!

Re: Hardest, Stupidest and Craziest Puzzles in Myst History?

SpiRyu — Sat May 15, 2010 10:55 am

Author: SpiRyu

Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 10:55 am

I really don't like the most puzzles from Uru... waiting 15 minutes (maybe i did something wrong but in uru live i had to wait 4 hours for the pellets^^), minkata, pod age, Ahnonay...
In Myst I didn't like the maze in Selentic, because I didn't understand how it worked, I just went everywhere until i found the end.
And in Myst 5 the elevator in lakian.
What I also don't really like is the puzzle with the water in Serenia. But I love Spire and the dream world
And riven is hard, but it's just wonderful...

From fav to least fav:

Riven
Myst
Exile/Revelation
End of Ages
Uru

Re: Hardest, Stupidest and Craziest Puzzles in Myst History?

Rusty_Russell — Fri May 14, 2010 9:01 pm

Author: Rusty_Russell

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 9:01 pm

Quote:

and c: If you leave for a minute or so you can completely miss the portal, and otherwise you have to wait a good part of a DAY because you have no idea how long the loop is.

For those in 'hoods with clocks (which were random), you could work out with the map in the museum and the pamphlet on time on the classroom table when all of the portals were going to open up.

Re: Hardest, Stupidest and Craziest Puzzles in Myst History?

Gondar — Fri May 14, 2010 8:23 pm

Author: Gondar

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 8:23 pm

Yup, that sums it up.

Really, it's NOT a good puzzle. I don't care what you say, sure you can figure the timing out for the portals using the map, but the kicker is a: you have NO indication you're waiting for a portal and nothing you can do will speed it up, b: you have no indication of the timing, when it starts (payiferen helps but not a lot) and c: If you leave for a minute or so you can completely miss the portal, and otherwise you have to wait a good part of a DAY because you have no idea how long the loop is.

I rank it right up there with the light "puzzle" in Path of the Shell, which I had to get a walkthrough because after a minute or so I figured I was doing something wrong and went to see what I could play with. I'm also lumping in the pellet drop vaguely, it was stupid and not much indication, but it was a hack to let us play a multiplayer age single-player so I give it some credit. It's still dumb.

A good puzzle should NOT only be evident post-facto. Those are NOT good puzzles. The annoying part is the rest of Cyan's puzzles for all their games are evident with a bit of thought more or less. And yet these timing puzzles are up there in stupid inane ideas. It's like your nth towers of hanoi in a generic adventure puzzle game. Everyone has to fall back on them at some point it seems and can't resist cramming one into their games somewhere.

Re: Hardest, Stupidest and Craziest Puzzles in Myst History?

AeikonDevleon — Fri May 14, 2010 3:26 am

Author: AeikonDevleon

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 3:26 am

When I first seen the pods:
"Oh, what is this?"
-clicks button- "Huh, nothing."
-looks out fogged window- "...hmm"
-climbs down latter, looks around and finds main power switch and ends up playing with buttons and going to other pods doing the same- "Wow, these are uselessly fun."
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After learning the ropes of the game:
"Okay, every age has a meaning to it...so what the hell do these pods mean or do?"
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After just reading the walk-through:
http://img402.imageshack.us/i/awesomehighres.png/

Re: Hardest, Stupidest and Craziest Puzzles in Myst History?

Unitearica — Fri May 07, 2010 3:39 am

Author: Unitearica

Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 3:39 am

Rudolfson wrote:

Unitearica wrote:
Aww, Exile is one of my fav Myst games. I didnt think it was that hard. 4 was the most frustrating for me, all because of the memory puzzles at the end.

'gulp'
Now I feel all bad for admitting I do not favourize Exile. It is very pleasing to play. I just wanted it to be harder I suppose.
Friends again?

rofl, trust me, no offense taken my friend. Exile could have been harder in many places; I'll agree to that. I think the reason why I liked it so much was it had lots of story development about the type of depth that ages could evolve into and that it was ibn part based upon a storyline concerning someone who had been negatively affected by the D'ni culture. You kinda see this in Riven, but Exile really drives it home. Now of course it was mainly a skewed perspective because it wasnt really the D'ni culture as much as it was Sirrus and Achenar, BUT, the influences of the D'ni were there.

But I take no offense to your statement. (actually kinda agree with you in some ways) still friends, lol It'd take a lot more than a disagreement about game/age developments to stop my friendships. Besides, never feel bad for admitting your own truth if you feel it is truth. There's nothing you need to feel bad about, you're allowed to disagree on a personal opinion.

Re: Hardest, Stupidest and Craziest Puzzles in Myst History?

Rudolfson — Thu May 06, 2010 10:39 pm

Author: Rudolfson

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 10:39 pm

Unitearica wrote:

Aww, Exile is one of my fav Myst games. I didnt think it was that hard. 4 was the most frustrating for me, all because of the memory puzzles at the end.

'gulp'
Now I feel all bad for admitting I do not favourize Exile. It is very pleasing to play. I just wanted it to be harder I suppose.
Friends again?

Re: Hardest, Stupidest and Craziest Puzzles in Myst History?

brett — Wed May 05, 2010 8:14 pm

Author: brett

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 8:14 pm

Hardest: Dreamworld Floating Lights Puzzle; requires time and full concentration.
Stupidest: Ercana Pellet Puzzle: I still have no idea what you're supposed to do.
Craziest: I agree with the writer on the Monkey puzzle. Runner up would be the Spire puzzle.

Re: Hardest, Stupidest and Craziest Puzzles in Myst History?

Unitearica — Mon May 03, 2010 5:13 am

Author: Unitearica

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 5:13 am

Aww, Exile is one of my fav Myst games. I didnt think it was that hard. 4 was the most frustrating for me, all because of the memory puzzles at the end.

Re: Hardest, Stupidest and Craziest Puzzles in Myst History?

Rudolfson — Sun May 02, 2010 8:09 pm

Author: Rudolfson

Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 8:09 pm

whitehelm wrote:

DragonDream wrote:

The hardest, hardest, hardest puzzle I have ever faced, was the "weight puzzle" in Amateria (Exile). How the heck was I supposed to know that 2:1 was the ratio for that thing. Anyway, after I eventually completed it the cool rollercoaster ride kind of made up for it.

There's a hangman toy in the J'nanin bedroom, where the 2 scales were. It shows the ratio for a moved fulcrum.

If you found all the views of the ball, that is. It was made to be a little deceptive. If more parts of amateria, and exile in general had held that quality i would have liked that game to. As it is, it just does not MYST it for me

Re: Hardest, Stupidest and Craziest Puzzles in Myst History?

Rusty_Russell — Sun May 02, 2010 7:54 pm

Author: Rusty_Russell

Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 7:54 pm

The pod puzzles aren't stupid if you know how to solve them. You need the map in the museum and the pamphlet about time on the classroom table of 'hoods with a clock.

Re: Hardest, Stupidest and Craziest Puzzles in Myst History?

Adam_Reith — Sun May 02, 2010 9:02 am

Author: Adam_Reith

Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:02 am

Shorah everyone.
Like tanshin I also find it easier, with a 100% success rate, if you jump from the tower with the journey cloth, onto the shorter, smaller one and then jump to the exit door.

Good Luck

Re: Hardest, Stupidest and Craziest Puzzles in Myst History?

Vanth — Sun May 02, 2010 3:16 am

Author: Vanth

Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 3:16 am

Hardest: Riven. Marble. Puzzle.

Stupidest: Pod Ages, Uru. First off me and a friend had to luck out and get one before we could even attempt to solve it! Very stupid. Waiting on time is not a puzzle.

Most Hilariously Infuriating: Harmonic/Crystals at the starting of Myst IV. Jebus.

Craziest: Psychic Vampire Memory Puzzle. Myst IV. What, the, heck?

Re: Hardest, Stupidest and Craziest Puzzles in Myst History?

KathyLE — Sat May 01, 2010 3:10 pm

Author: KathyLE

Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 3:10 pm

That was great. I felt the same way when I first went through it. Good Job and Good Luck w/ Paper Mario

Re: Hardest, Stupidest and Craziest Puzzles in Myst History?

DragonDream — Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:41 pm

Author: DragonDream

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:41 pm

whitehelm wrote:

DragonDream wrote:

The hardest, hardest, hardest puzzle I have ever faced, was the "weight puzzle" in Amateria (Exile). How the heck was I supposed to know that 2:1 was the ratio for that thing. Anyway, after I eventually completed it the cool rollercoaster ride kind of made up for it.

There's a hangman toy in the J'nanin bedroom, where the 2 scales were. It shows the ratio for a moved fulcrum.

Yeah, I'm aware of that, but at the time I had no idea that it was somehow related. Eventually, after two weeks of trying to solve the puzzle and I used a walkthrough to solve it. The fact I was so close to the solution (about halfway there) made me want to bash my head against the wall but I'm not sure how that would have helped solve the puzzle.