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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:38 am 
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pradnureetee, “rock-[currencies]”
tishmah, “friend”
atinor, “beauty”
gahrkahl, “storm”
nahdahn, “mushroom”
elemahr, “spore”
veren, “pacify”
shokrotahn, “dirtmover (bulldozer)”
tome, “homesick”

And the note about -et/-ets.

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Regarding tsogal, it looks like it should be a participle of a verb tsog, which could mean "to shine" (thus "sunny" is "shining"). To relate this to tsoid, we'd have two suffices, -(o)g and -id, and a base tso, all of unknown meaning. The base tso is certainly unrelated to the genitive preposition.

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I'll repost the list of new words that I've introduced in the Pictorial Dictionary up to this point, since Korovev was working from my illustrations and there are some differences between what I could illustrate and what the words can mean. For example, when Rawa gave me the word veren, his first choice of meaning was "mollify", but that was not something I could illustrate. I went with the synonym "pacify" with his approval.

Åtinor: Beauty.
Delin: Mist, Misty.
Elemahr: Spore.
Gahrkahl: Storm.
Nahdahn: Mushroom.
Shokrotahn: Bulldozer (lit. "dirtmover")
Tomeh: Homesick. ("out of place")
Tsogahl: Sunny, bright.
Veren: Mollify, pacify.

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KathAveara wrote:
Regarding tsogal, it looks like it should be a participle of a verb tsog, which could mean "to shine" (thus "sunny" is "shining"). To relate this to tsoid, we'd have two suffices, -(o)g and -id, and a base tso, all of unknown meaning. The base tso is certainly unrelated to the genitive preposition.

There is a verb netso 'produce, make' that may contain this same element tso. The difference between this and bahrel 'make' may be that netso involves making similar things over and over. If this is conveyed in part by tso then perhaps this explains the application to types of light, since these are in a sense "propagation" of the same thing continuously.

The idea of "produce" can also be used in English to describe the characteristic result of an action, as in a phrase like mishtahtahv b'netso rebishtah 'construction to produce the tunnel'. If this was a common-place idiom, it may have ultimately worn down to mishtahtahv tso rebishtah 'construction of the tunnel'.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:55 pm 
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Regarding delin 'misty; mist' this looks like it could contain the past-participial ending -in, and suggests that this suffix can form words with both adjectival and also noun meanings.

Other adjectival uses of words that may end in this suffix are: oshahnin 'lost'; melin 'outer'; riltahgahmin 'unknown'; and bahvahnin (meaning something like 'hidden'). Other nouns that may end in this suffix are: boogin 'creature'; and terelin 'contact'.

Some of these seem clearly deverbal in origin (though technically only tahgahm 'know' is attested in use as a verb); so this raises the possibility that del is a verb stem. Perhaps as a verb it means something like 'to dim' or 'to obscure'.

Another possible etymology for delin would be a relation to the name Todelmer. The first and third elements in this seem to be to 'place' and mer 'watch'; so that the middle element ought to refer to the 'sky' in general or to something astronomical, like 'star' or 'galaxy'.

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