Greed...

Greed

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You need a none-of-the-above option...

Escher is presumably somewhere out of the way (if this is post-EoA, which given the lack of obvious destruction in that game is at least a tenable hypothesis); likewise Yeesha is presumably in Releeshahn making sure nobody has any power (except, you know, her). Kadish is old news, though maybe not a dead issue. I don't think the bahro have any reason to bring destruction on D'ni or us, though since their minds are completely opaque to us that might be a mistaken assumption. As for greed, pride, and all the other deadly sins, I can't help feeling the point has been hammered into the ground by now. (I'd quite like it to be the obsessive *avoidance* of pride, greed and et cetera, which can be just as bad...) And as for disease, well, ick. I hope not.

I'm hoping for something new.

Zander wrote:

Yeesha is presumably in Releeshahn making sure nobody has any power (except, you know, her).

Well put!

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Zander wrote:

You need a none-of-the-above option...

My none-of-the-above vote was for Yeesha.

JWPlatt wrote:

One of Yeesha's journals from "End Of Ages," found in the chamber off the rasied floor of the Great Shaft, reads:

"I began my journey with a heavy burden. It was Tiana who came to D'ni and caused its fall. I am from her. I feel I am destined to bring another destruction."

No one has commented on this. It seems pretty clear that Cyan has planted the seeds of destruction with Yeesha.

Zander wrote:

(if this is post-EoA, which given the lack of obvious destruction in that game is at least a tenable hypothesis)

But End Of Ages had deep rumblings, audible debris falling, and large cracks appearing. Further, there appears to be a clear view of the Cavern from the windows of K'veer. All of the caldera, the Great Shaft, and K'veer seem to be under the process of significant destruction which strongly implies the Cavern is undergoing the same thing.

cjkelly1 wrote:

Deledrius wrote:

Our sun going nova would do it.

That would do it as well.

Hmmm. A similar unfortunate thing regarding the sun happened to Garternay. Could there be a hidden lever in Ae'gura which reads "Trigger nova - do not pull", or something like it?

If that's the case, we're all in trouble, seeing as all of us have been VERY well trained to pull levers, push buttons, etc.

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JWPlatt wrote:

But End Of Ages had deep rumblings, audible debris falling, and large cracks appearing. Further, there appears to be a clear view of the Cavern from the windows of K'veer. All of the caldera, the Great Shaft, and K'veer seem to be under the process of significant destruction which strongly implies the Cavern is undergoing the same thing.

Now THIS caught my attention.

Could it be simply that it is just the environment that causes the Cavern to cave in on itself? It is a big underground bubble after all. It would make sense, given the age of the cavern, that it could and would fall in on itself. An earthquake, pressure from the surface, water erosion...there are many natural reasons why the cavern could cave in.

I know that it is a simplistic answer, but it has the most believability. Think about it...it is an underground city...if they had bore into the ground and changed the natural structure of the cavern, excavating where and when they needed to, it would only make sense that they tampered with the caverns' natural structural integrity.

Even with the Bahro still inhabiting the area, when we all know from EoA that they can link at will, it would serve them well just to link to get out of harm's way when the structure finally collapsed in on itself.

Who can forget Phil's accident...could that have also weakened the cavern's stability??

I guess we'll find out this Christmas....

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JWPlatt wrote:

Except it won't - sorry. Red giant, yellow dwarf, then white dwarf...

Well, equally well it would bring about destruction, I should think. Maybe quieter, but nonetheles...

cjkelly wrote:

Hmmm. A similar unfortunate thing regarding the sun happened to Garternay.

I know, and there's a reason I mentioned the method of destruction I did... I have this theory, you see...

I had forgotten the background noises in EoA. That's a good point. We can also speculate on how to avoid the destruction. I think the Bahro's evident control of nature (wind, rain, etc.) makes them an ideal ally in any attempt to save/reverse URU.

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I'm still trying to figure out "what" will be destructed? It might be so many things. It "could" be the cavern, but it could also be The Art or maybe even our own Relto! Doesn't the text at the bottom of the page say "find a way... make a home"? Do we have to make a new home? Do we have to escape some nasty situation or should we actually clear a path through something?

Worst case:
An enormous pile of usable and stable age books are found deep down in the library: yeeeaaah !!!!. During the first escavation the entire structure breaks down and what is left of the library is nothing more than a pile of debris: oooohhhh bummer !!! Deep down there the books are still there: pffffew . We have to find a way in and find the books . Once we managed to do so we will be able to visit a variety of ages in which we can build new homes .

I'm still a bit suspicious about those Bahro...

Cheers,
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I Didn't put a none of the above option or some obvious options (like Yeesha etc.) so that people with those ideas would write what they think.

I still think that it is greed from one being or a group of them.

Or a new idea just popped into my mind, what if we find another group of beings on an inhabited age?! Like the bahro and pento?

What if they link to the cavern and start messing things up?

(Just and idea to start more speculation)

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Because Yeesha actually writes in EOA that she feels she is "destined to bring another destruction," you have to seriously consider whether Cyan has already used that in the plan for Uru Live 2. Moke has said they have used elements of EOA, thought perhaps not as we expect (loose quote). He also says the Cleft will be be necessary to complete the game, but we will begin in the "heart" of the community to get us to a faster start.

Perhaps Yeesha reawakens the volcano! All those rumblings are are a good predictor of a Mount Saint Helen's kind of event, and it's been in the news again. That could be why the Cleft is not immediately available, and the Great Shaft, well, what's the easiest path for the magma to follow? Uh huh. Talk about cataclysms.

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Deledrius wrote:
Our sun going nova would do it.

Or some other manner of destruction of the earth. Perhaps this is what "Make a Home" refers to; to create an Age, as Atrus did with Releeshahn, in which we can continue to exist, thereby escaping the destruction of the world. that could be another reason we've been asked to get active as writers.

Maybe the Vogons are coming.

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TheDoctor wrote:

Or some other manner of destruction of the earth.

Ok...

The destruction of the Earth would include the Cleft, would it not? Being necessary for completion of the game, I believe Cyan will not give us an impossible task and will probably not destroy the Earth.