10:10 <Nadnerb>:(vote for cleft)
10:10 <SCGreyWolf>:+1
10:10 <TomahnaGuy>:-1
10:10 <Nadnerb>:
10:11 <Zuben>:+1 cleft
10:11 <Tailahr>:+1
10:11 <Kato>:+1 cleft
10:11 <Veralun>:just wipe the coffe from that keyboard than it work again
10:11 <Drake>:Cleft
10:11 <TomahnaGuy>:aw, wot, I liked relto
10:11 <Whilyam>:+1 Cleft
10:11 <Trevor1017>:Cleft!
10:11 <Marten>:shh folks
10:11 <CC>:[Eleri] ssshhhh
10:11 <Trylon>:+1 Cleft
10:11 <RicKy>:+1 cleft
10:11 <melodilynn>:I want Cleft!
10:11 <Jamey>:+1 cleft
10:11 <TomahnaGuy>:fine, cleft
10:11 *** boblishman joined #cyanchat
10:11 <Ishtar>:+1
10:11 <Chogon>:When we re-open the cavern it will be just like it was in MOUL, you will start out in Relto. Whether that changes in the future... don't know.
10:11 <Animate_Rain>:+1 relto
10:11 <belford>:chill
10:11 <Helodwyn>:+1 cleft
10:11 <JennyH>:+1
10:11 <Dachannien>:sorry Chogon, the fans have spoken
10:11 <JennyH>:cleft
10:11 *** ametist quit (Quit:
http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
10:11 <Chogon>:ahh, the clefties
10:11 <Nadnerb>:hehe
10:11 <Simon_Bitdiddle>:Quiet.
10:11 <Betara>:Let's just Get there
10:11 <TomahnaGuy>:lol
10:11 <Narym>:starting point discussion for the forums, guys
10:12 <Zuben>:true dat, Betara
10:12 <Altydwarber>:let just get MORE
10:12 <Whilyam>:Getting there is half the fun
10:12 <Chogon>:next
10:12 <CC>:[Jane] what Betara said!
10:12 <Greypiffle>:let's get back on track
10:12 <Tichelle>:Someone put up a poll on MOUL lol
10:12 <Cully>:next!
10:12 <Nadnerb>:Eleri?
10:12 <Marten>:*fixes some items missing from the html queue page*
10:13 <Marten>:Eleri is up
10:13 <CC>:[Eleri] (hold on two secs, Mousie is screaming in my ear
10:13 <CC>:[Eleri] ok... yay cut and paste
10:13 <CC>:[Eleri] Erik touched on this a bit, but with Age building as the primary focus, how can non age builders contribute? Will there be tools for objects and animations and avatar options? What about fan run 'characters' like JD Barnes, will there be a plac {continues}
10:13 <CC>:e for fan story?
10:14 <Chogon>:The details are worked out yet... but yes. I'm not sure how user friendly the tools will be or whether there will be something in-game to use to create.
10:15 <Chogon>:Sorry... I meant the detail are not worked out yet.
10:15 <Colin_Brennan>

(http://www.mystonline.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15814 - for the cleft vs. relto))
10:15 <Chogon>:next
10:15 <Nadnerb>:rephrase: Will there be an offline release of the client for local testing of new ages prior to any submittal, or will we need to use full on-line server for testing from the start of development? (and in either case, how will that be handled?)
10:15 <Marten>:Next is Nadnerb with more Qs from the MOUL thread
10:15 <Lynnutte>:Yey Nadnerb
10:15 <CC>:[theclam] *raises hand*
10:15 <Zuben>:Poll for starting MORE posted:
http://www.mystonline.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=262786#262786
10:16 Leonor raises hand again
10:16 <Alahmnat>:Zuben> Sorry, you were beaten to the punch
10:16 <Marten>:(if you shift-refresh the queue, you should see yourselves being added; let me know if I miss you.)
10:16 <Chogon>:Not sure how that is going to work yet. But I am thinking that to test your age you will connect to the Cyan server but be allowed to have local data.
10:17 <Emily>:yea i thought i was on the list too but add me if im not already there
10:17 <Chogon>:Obviously there was to be some way to tell the server what you are doing... that way you can have other people help you test multiplayer
10:17 <Jamey>:where is the list anyway?
10:17 <Chogon>:next
10:17 <Erik>:Jamey:
http://marten.treeweasel.com/Uru/queue.html
10:18 <Marten>:Next is jwplatt (nommie took his question back)
10:18 <CC>:[JWPlatt] Could a production house like Ubisoft (not to publish Uru) add premium content like an expansion pack to make a profit and help Uru be more successful? Ubisoft isn't "grass roots," but this question is really about who owns content and the a {continues}
10:18 <CC>:ttractive capcity to charge premiums at some point.
10:18 <Emily>:im on the list twice

can you take the second time off?
10:18 <Marten>:Emily> got it
10:18 <CC>:[wandering_nomad] Because of you... Lontahv *gives him... the eye*
10:19 <Gadren>:(how do we check the queue?)
10:19 <Emily>:kk thanks
10:19 <Marten>:Queue:
http://marten.treeweasel.com/Uru/queue.html
10:20 <Chogon>:Well, the business plan is going to have to be flexible. We will start this way... but in the future may be we could leave open the possiblity of...
10:21 <BrianNeferus>:Just wanted to know if Cyan is thinking of making their own sort of Age making program specifically made for the ART...like a D'ni Age Managaer so to speak...to make creating links easier...
10:21 <Chogon>:someone like a another studio to create content for extra fees.
10:21 <Marten>:Brian> I'll add you to the bottom of the queue.
10:21 <Chogon>:next
10:21 <Marten>:TigerTails is next
10:22 <BrianNeferus>:k
10:23 <BrianNeferus>:Wait waddya mean bottom of the queue?
10:23 <Marten>:TigerTails may be asleep. Yawni had a question?
10:23 <Deledrius>:there's a line of people asking questions, BrianNeferus
10:23 <Yawni>:Are there formal plans involving Guilds not mentioned in the MORE announcement? Specifically, I'm looking at Guilds like the Archivists, who were not reintroduced during MOUL.
10:24 <chucker>:Amanda: ping
10:24 <Marten>

I like this question)
10:24 <Drake>:Trying not to time out.))
10:24 <Narym>:bet Al does too
10:24 <Alahmnat>:Hooray for Archivist love!. And amazingly, I still have a question
10:25 <Narym>::O
10:25 <Chogon>:At this point all of our plans are not formal (cast in stone). All of the guilds should be more involved (hit me over the head to remind me).
10:25 <BrianNeferus>:ah, my bad...so ill just wait for my question to be answered...
10:25 <Nynaveve>:
10:25 <Alahmnat>:Chogon> Oh, I will, hehe
10:25 <BrianNeferus>:DANG! ihad gotten logged out
10:25 <TomahnaGuy>:[hits over head] Guild of technologists
10:26 <BrianNeferus>:so i can ask now?
10:26 <Tahg>:no
10:26 Whilyam weilds a large hammer
10:26 <IanWatson>:(Guild of Linguists!)
10:26 melodilynn waits for a chance to be close enough to do that
10:26 <Chogon>:And hopefully, there will be ways of creating new guilds as new areas of help are needed.
10:26 <BrianNeferus>:aw monkeyfeathers
10:26 <Tahg>:there is about 30-40 people ahead Brian
10:26 <CC>:[theclam] brian: the line is
http://marten.treeweasel.com/Uru/queue.html
10:26 <chucker>:BrianNeferus:
http://marten.treeweasel.com/Uru/queue.html you're, like, way down there.
10:26 <Chogon>:next
10:26 <Marten>:Yali! you're next finally with your really big question. Beware of the character limit though.
10:26 <oldmanjob>:uild of Greeters on call
10:27 <Yali>:Ok, here's one. I've always held the idea that the best way for Uru to come back in full throttle would be through a complete rehaul and re-release, with a new spanking ad campaign and such. This would entail a development period which would hence lend itself to an improved, updated Uru. We've got to admit that Uru is already a game of a past technological generation. More so, I have this desire to see it return with as much force and vigo
10:27 <Tahg>:cut off
10:27 <chucker>:Yali: split into multiple lines.
10:27 <chucker>:after "More so, I have this desire to see it return with as much force and vigo"
10:27 <BrianNeferus>:nuts..ok thanks guys.... i got confused with "Marten has given voice to BrianNeferus"
10:27 <Yali>:I have this desire to see it return with as much force and vigor as Riven did in the wake of Myst. Would /does Cyan share this view?
10:28 <Whilyam>:force and Vigo Mortensen!
10:28 <Erik>:
10:28 <Alahmnat>:Whil> he'd bring in the ladies
10:28 <Whilyam>:Give us Aragorn!
10:28 <Whilyam>:
10:28 <Chogon>:For MORE, we are seeing more of a grass roots, build slowly process rather than the big bang a major marketing.
10:29 Nynaveve drools.... oh sorry.
10:29 <Chogon>:next
10:29 <Marten>:NOTE: Chogon has told me that he's running out of steam. We've got about 15 more minutes. When we stop, I will collect questions that haven't been answered and forward them on to Chogon in hopes that we'll get more answers later.
10:29 <Yali>:could that be an option later on?
10:29 <Marten>:Next is a question from Dotsahvahn, who had to leave.
10:29 <TomahnaGuy>:Hmm, steam eh?
10:29 <Marten>:He wrote: "While ages and other 'expensive' content may come far in the future, will 'cheaper' content like stor, character chats, and journal entries be added to MORE sooner? There were not enough little details, like notebooks to the GT ages, IMHO"
10:29 Whilyam steams Chogon
10:30 <Chogon>:Yali: Yes it is possible in the future... which is not written yet.
10:30 melodilynn has pellets to help fuel Chogon
10:30 <oldmanjob>:Guild of Greeters ready to go to work:)
10:30 <JWPlatt>:Someone turn Chogon's Valve and turn up that Steam.
10:30 <chucker>:people on CyanChat can request the topic by sending "!topic" to MC as a private mssage.
10:31 <Chogon>:Yes, Cyan may be able to add smaller content sooner... but that will all be played by ear. But I could see that happening.
10:31 <Chogon>:next
10:31 <Whilyam>:<pong>
10:31 <Marten>:Next, Jamey
10:31 <Jamey>:Will flymode patches for Avatars be given to the writers and maintainers to examine our ages?
10:31 <BrianNeferus>:*twiddlin*
10:31 <CC>:[amonre] you mean... jetpacks? right?
10:32 <TomahnaGuy>

n the maintainer suits
10:32 <Nadnerb>:good point.. won't certain administrative privilages be needed for testing?
10:32 <Unicorn>:isn't that what's in our (already) backpack?
10:32 <BrianNeferus>:makes sense
10:32 <Chogon>:Good question (again). Obviously there will have to be some kind of debugging tools for age creators. Not sure what they will be yet.
10:32 <Chogon>:next
10:32 <Marten>:Rik is next.
10:32 <Rik>:Thank you. As for the rehearsal and beta testers of MOUL (whover they may be

), are they still under the NDA? Also, is there anything left in the Pipeline?
10:32 <BrianNeferus>:brb
10:33 <Chogon>:As far as I know, the NDAs have not elapsed but I don't know what each individual signed.
10:34 <Chogon>:As far as the "pipeline" there is a few things left around... but still needs lots of work.
10:34 <Chogon>:next
10:34 <Nadnerb>:veralun asked: When it comes to a billingsystem, can PayPal be integrated into that? This gives more ppl the possebility to pay.
10:34 <Marten>:(Yes, Nadnerb's next.)
10:34 <Nadnerb>:expanded: what billing options do you plan on?
10:34 <Sumatria>:

bye everyone...I will read logs later *Chogon Thank you!!!
10:34 <Lynnutte>:Bye Sumi!
10:35 SCGreyWolf follows Suamtria in the same fashion, also waving. (Must run errands)
10:35 <Chogon>:We have not picked what billing system will be use... BUT we are considering very seriously using paypal as the method to collect funds.
10:35 <Chogon>:next
10:35 <Marten>:DarK is next
10:35 <Deledrius>:excellent
10:35 <Herohtar>:PayPal FTW
10:36 <Zuben>:
10:36 SCGreyWolf turns into a pillar of nara...
10:36 <Mara>:ping aviodance post
10:36 <Marten>:DarK? Ok, next, Narym.
10:36 <DarK>:with the guilds playing a more active role in the game, and while im aware of the lack of staff, is there work on a guid hall? can one be started
10:36 <Marten>:OK, there he is
10:36 <Narym>:lol
10:37 <Guest_48324>:gives paypal thumbs up
10:38 <Chogon>:DarK: not sure about particular content. We will have to visit all those kinds of things and how we can get them acomplished.
10:38 <BrianNeferus>:good to see i have time :/
10:38 <Chogon>:next
10:38 <Narym>:Narym for The Archiver... pretty sure this hasn't been asked
10:38 <Narym>:but Will the content work entirely in a buffet style, so fans pick and choose exactly what Ages and content they want, or will there still be a base line for what things players need in order to connect to the server, a la MOUL?
10:39 <Whilyam>:I'd like to be able to pick and choose what I download
10:39 <Nadnerb>:+1
10:39 <Tahg>:I assume where you go will dictate what you get
10:39 <TomahnaGuy>:+1
10:40 <Chogon>:Not sure about how that is going to work yet. There are many parts of that question... such as fan create age testing and the server having too much for download. yet to be determined.
10:40 <Chogon>:next
10:40 <Greypiffle>:you can vote in the forums guys - let's keep only questions here
10:40 <Marten>:Poseidon
10:40 <Poseidon>:will we have the ability to add on to the city and relto to make more room for the age linking books that are due to be submitted? or are these places sacred ground that only cyan can add to, also what of the ages that were conceptualized by cyan but never finished.. could we step up and turn those ages into reality for you guys?
10:40 <Collin>:marten please remove me from the list. my question was just asked
10:41 <CC>:[Dhelayan] yes, please remove me too, thanks
10:41 <Chogon>:There will be sacred areas that the age creators will have to stay away from so that Cyan can continue creating content in those areas.
10:41 <BrianNeferus>:makes sense
10:41 <Chogon>:RAWA and Rand have been working on a guideline for those areas, which should be very close to being released.
10:42 <Chogon>:next
10:42 <Drake>:Oooh, this has sparked a question, add me to the list even if I don't get a chance to ask.
10:42 <Marten>:Next is Lynnutte
10:42 <Lynnutte>

o you have a time frame as to when the cavern might be opened again? When the cavern is open again, what will be the population limit for the various areas such as the city and neighborhoods? If so, Will there be systems in place to include more people in events than area limits will allow or will the guilds be incharge of figuring that out?
10:43 <Narym>:lol that's like a triple question
10:43 <Chogon>:Cavern re-opening... soon. When it does re-open it will have the same limits and things that were on MOUL.
10:43 TomahnaGuy remembers Soon(tm)
10:43 <Jen>:when you say "soon", does that mean days, weeks or months?
10:43 <Atheni33>:
10:43 <CC>:[theclam] jen: that was answered, "months"
10:44 <Chogon>:That could very well change in the future. I do like the idea of having a simple age kind place for ampitheatre kinds of events... but that is way in the future.
10:44 <Marten>:Aloys, next.
10:44 <Aloys>:Is there anything we can do to help speed up the release of MOUL/MORE? Coding, testing, donations.. anything.
10:44 <BrianNeferus>:threats?
10:44 <BrianNeferus>:lol
10:44 <BrianNeferus>:jk
10:45 <Lynnutte>:lol
10:45 <Chogon>:I think that we can have something up soon enough that power boosts are not needed. However, afterwards there will be lots more to do.
10:45 <Drake>:A=P(sub)UP => DUP
10:45 <Drake>:oops
10:45 <Chogon>:next
10:45 <Saruk>:pizza
10:45 <TomahnaGuy>:steam?
10:45 <Marten>:Colin_Brennan, next
10:45 <Colin_Brennan>:It's been said in the roadmap that eventually users will be able to shard Myst on their own servers and host their own ages. Now, would this be more like directing the client to the server, or actually having the servers patched in through the Nexus to create a seamless transition from place to place, akin to Second Life? (Just wanted a clarification of the road map on that.)
10:46 <Emily>:When the new Uru starts, are there going to be any new relto pages or any ones that are being taken away - or are all of them going to be the same? If there are any new ones or any being taken away, what are they?
10:46 <Emily>:oops
10:46 <Emily>:srry lol
10:46 <BrianNeferus>:most of us forgive you
10:46 <Chogon>:The front end shards will not necessarly host their own content but be able to control a particular instance of an age, like a particular neighborhood.
10:46 <Narym>:most
10:47 <Emily>:lol
10:47 <BrianNeferus>

r ages?
10:47 <BrianNeferus>:sorry
10:47 <Chogon>:But there may have to be some kind of in-game mechinism for avatars to find their way to those particular places...
10:48 <Whilyam>:You love mechanisms, don't you?
10:48 <Chogon>:and know they are crossing over the line to fan hosted age links.
10:48 <Chogon>:next
10:48 <Colin_Brennan>:Thanks Chogon.
10:48 <Chogon>:mechanisms.... ahhhhhhh
10:48 <kyevan>:Good morning, everyone! I just woke up - what format is being used so this is the only time I have to break it? >_>
10:48 <Marten>:belford, you're up.
10:48 <belford>:You (and the roadmap) mentioned releasing the 3DS Max plugin to the Guild of Writers. Right now, the GoW is literally defined as anybody who drops by the GoW forum and participates. So that means releasing the plugin to everybody. Is that what you want? Or do you see limiting it to a core developer team?
10:48 <BrianNeferus>:sperate nexus maybe..or "many age bevin"..lol
10:49 <Erik>:Tell Marten if you want to be in the queue, and then he will call you, kyevan
10:49 <Whilyam>:Neighborhood!
10:49 <Simon_Bitdiddle>:BEVIN!
10:49 <Whilyam>:Objection!
10:49 <Atheni33>:lol
10:49 <CC>:[theclam] take it to the forums
10:49 <BrianNeferus>:overruled!
10:49 <Drake>:Take That!
10:49 <Poseidon>:i think it may be wise to get the game up first.. and release the tools in the game itself...
10:49 <kyevan>:... Never mind, belford just asked my question, basicly.
10:49 <Chogon>:Yes, it is to be released to all that want them. The GoW is just the *mechanism* to get it out. (heh)
10:49 <Deledrius>:awesome
10:49 <belford>:yay. Thanks
10:49 <Chogon>:next
10:50 <TomahnaGuy>:yays *dances*
10:50 <kyevan>:Oh thank god! One of my friends will be VERY relieved.
10:50 <Marten>:Ametist?
10:50 <ametist>:Thanks:)Have you seen any of the newly created (by fans) ages? Opinion if so?
10:50 <Rik>:mechanisms are cool.
10:50 <Tweek>:Keep chatter to a minimum please.
10:50 <Kato>:ahhh, that clears it up
10:51 <Chogon>:Yes. I have used the ULM to look at several and I am very impressed. I can see there needs to be more testing on them (heh) but very cool!
10:51 <Chogon>:next
10:51 <Marten>:Atheni33 has another question
10:51 <CC>:[Emor D'ni Lap] Note that there's a difference between the 3DSMax plugin and its code
10:51 <Atheni33>:I’m sure many of us have encountered disruptive players in Moul and we have had the ResEng to take care of such problems. Now that Cyan has reduced their staff how will such issues be addresses? Will we be able to ban such players from neighborhood/bevins during meetings and events? Or will there be a Guild created to address such issues?
10:51 <Jamey>:take my name off the list plz
10:52 <Jen>:GREAT question Atheni33!
10:52 <BrianNeferus>:I so wanna use "the Art" right now
10:52 <Jacuru>:Guild of Reseng's ?
10:52 <Erik>:Guild of Legislators
10:52 <JWPlatt>:Brian, please stop your spamming
10:52 <Race>:he he
10:52 <Emily>:im changing my qeustion
10:52 <Chogon>:Obviously, we will be short handed, especially in the ResEng area. We are looking at several different options...
10:53 <Simon_Bitdiddle>:Drafting Biegalski?
10:53 <Chogon>:next
10:53 <kyevan>:Is there a client-side mute I forget.?
10:53 <kyevan>:Is there a client-side mute I forget.?
10:53 <TomahnaGuy>:REVAL *cough*
10:53 <Marten>:LAST QUESTION
10:53 <Tahg>:yes
10:53 <Marten>:Nadnerb
10:53 <Nadnerb>:uhm, I'm last? o.o
10:53 <Nadnerb>:Zardoz asked: Will Uru canon continue in MORE or will it be suspended? That is to say, should I be worried about being eaten by Bahros if I venture into MORE?
10:53 <Tahg>:kyevan, you can do /ignore whoever
10:54 <Jahmen>:Guild Police!
10:54 <Nadnerb>:ie, how will continuity be handled, (or not)
10:54 <Darkstar>:Shorah eveyone
10:54 <Ewilan>:Shorah
10:54 <Chogon>:It may be continued... see earlier answer.
10:54 <Marten>:We're on the last question now. I will collect unanswered questions and send them together to Chogon in hopes that he'll grace us with more of his time.
10:55 <Chogon>:Ok, maybe one more since that one was sort of a repeat
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