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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:55 pm — Post subject:
Before this gets too personal and the thread is locked, do you think you could take your friction to pm?
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:11 pm — Post subject:
good advice. but i won't be having further "discussion" on this...
it doesn't appeal to me
it doesn't appeal to me
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:20 pm — Post subject:
I would insist that people do exactly as Rusty_Russell suggests, and reserve any personal jibes for outside of the public forums.
When MOUL was run under GameTap, Cyan were funded to "police" the caverns, via the ResEngs who were contactable in-game. That doesn't mean that unsavoury incidents didn't happen - they did - but once an issue was known it could be dealt with relatively quickly.
The ResEng's no longer exist but Tor'i recently reminded the moderators that the support team are still active (although a little stretched for time) and monitoring the Support Ticket system, and they will deal with any issues of harassment or inappropriate behaviour in-cavern, if alerted by a support ticket. Unfortunately, it's not a 24/7 service. (See What to do when I run into troublesome explorers?)
While it's important to be aware that there are "risks" in a relatively unregulated cavern, and RAWA made that point at the opening of MOULa, we do not really want to see specific incidents discussed on the forums: That inevitably leads to speculation and witch hunts, whether or not that is the intent.
When MOUL was run under GameTap, Cyan were funded to "police" the caverns, via the ResEngs who were contactable in-game. That doesn't mean that unsavoury incidents didn't happen - they did - but once an issue was known it could be dealt with relatively quickly.
The ResEng's no longer exist but Tor'i recently reminded the moderators that the support team are still active (although a little stretched for time) and monitoring the Support Ticket system, and they will deal with any issues of harassment or inappropriate behaviour in-cavern, if alerted by a support ticket. Unfortunately, it's not a 24/7 service. (See What to do when I run into troublesome explorers?)
While it's important to be aware that there are "risks" in a relatively unregulated cavern, and RAWA made that point at the opening of MOULa, we do not really want to see specific incidents discussed on the forums: That inevitably leads to speculation and witch hunts, whether or not that is the intent.
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:04 pm — Post subject:
Yes, it is true that I have not been on the forum for very long. That does not mean I have not read the forum posts. I have been playing the game a very long time, so I am not going to defend myself.
I have been online every evening, 7 days a week. I really don't know where the "brothel" term came up, but I have not seen anything resembling one.
The majority of people on URU are the greatest. Yes, there are younger people that play the game and the majority of people do not curse or do anything offensive, knowing that it does bother children and even most adults.
I have met only a few "trolls" or whatever. I have only one avvie on my ignore list.
I am sorry that you have had problems with others or you think that brothels run rampant. I see no evidence of that, and I am sure none will tolerate it.
I have been online every evening, 7 days a week. I really don't know where the "brothel" term came up, but I have not seen anything resembling one.
The majority of people on URU are the greatest. Yes, there are younger people that play the game and the majority of people do not curse or do anything offensive, knowing that it does bother children and even most adults.
I have met only a few "trolls" or whatever. I have only one avvie on my ignore list.
I am sorry that you have had problems with others or you think that brothels run rampant. I see no evidence of that, and I am sure none will tolerate it.
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:54 am — Post subject:
i am not interested in popular opinion. this topic has no point and no one stands to gain from it.
Then get off the forum. Seriously, if you don't want to hear what people think, there is no point in you being here.
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:00 am — Post subject:
While it's important to be aware that there are "risks" in a relatively unregulated cavern, and RAWA made that point at the opening of MOULa, we do not really want to see specific incidents discussed on the forums: That inevitably leads to speculation and witch hunts, whether or not that is the intent.
Then shut down the cavern. If you're not going to allow people to give others an accurate assessment of the risks of being in game, it is *hideously* irresponsible to keep it running.
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:03 am — Post subject:
$ git reset --hard HEAD~1
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:08 am — Post subject:
I guess we are just not mature enough to moderate our own behavior
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:19 am — Post subject:
Then get off the forum. Seriously, if you don't want to hear what people think, there is no point in you being here.
i believe i shall. and it's not because i don't want to hear what some people think, it's because i don't wish to suffer the quality (or lack there of) of the discussions present in these forums. hence the reason why anyone with sense stepped out long ago so such discussions could continue without them having to be troubled by them. like how good neighbors move out when the neighborhood turns to trash.
Then shut down the cavern. If you're not going to allow people to give others an accurate assessment of the risks of being in game, it is *hideously* irresponsible to keep it running.
this is pathetically ignorant. do you really listen to your own words when you write stuff like this?
i'm tired of hoping that there will be discussions worth having here without worrying about them being tarnished by all the trash. i'm done with pleading with people to leave all the garbage out. i won't let the company here be a source of frustration for me any longer. so instead of pleading and trying to have civil discussion, which obviously hasn't worked, i'll stop and let it continue without me. and i have no regrets.
for goodness sake have fun and enjoy yourselves would ya?
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:23 am — Post subject:
While it's important to be aware that there are "risks" in a relatively unregulated cavern, and RAWA made that point at the opening of MOULa, we do not really want to see specific incidents discussed on the forums: That inevitably leads to speculation and witch hunts, whether or not that is the intent.
Then shut down the cavern. If you're not going to allow people to give others an accurate assessment of the risks of being in game, it is *hideously* irresponsible to keep it running.
No I see where he's coming from. If you have a bad experience in game why talk about it? The only exception would be if it was a positive experience. Otherwise it's too dangerous to bring up anything negative because in turn it's just as bad as the people who started it in the first place. Even THINKING about it is wrong. Just let them do what they do and go about your business because eventually people who don't know will stumble upon it themselves. Then a bunch of people will know and not know that each other know about it.
Makes perfect sense to me anyway.
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:40 am — Post subject:
I think what we got on our hands is a dead shark...
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:40 am — Post subject:
While kaelis's initial post might seem a bit off-the-wall to many of the new Uru players, there was a time in Uru's history where sexual harassment and sex clubs were a very real thing [Side Note: I have no idea if there are any sex clubs in MOULa nor is that a matter I wish to know about]. This was several years ago, of course, so many of you were not exposed to them... Unfortunately, the "it's not an issue" posts seemed (to a few of us) that you guys were dismissing the idea of sexual harassment of children in general, which can be quite a sensitive topic for some, hence some angry responses.
By the way, in any debate, calling someone a moron is unacceptable and is just not cool.
EDIT: Sorry about the redacted post I made above. It was unwise in wording and imagery.
By the way, in any debate, calling someone a moron is unacceptable and is just not cool.
EDIT: Sorry about the redacted post I made above. It was unwise in wording and imagery.
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 5:32 am — Post subject:
If it has not been said yet, when these things occur immediately start a chatlog by typing
/startlog
That way these debates do not persist. Submit your log to Cyan Support or the community manager, RAWA. (Or inversely, Chogon) Don't expect Burger King style service; this is a donation supported game and should be treated as such. If sexual harassment occurred there's not a lot we can do; we can ban such players, but that damage has already been done. Remember, it's like the ESRB says "Online interactions not rated by th ESRB." Please don't let bad experiences ruin Uru for you; come back, there's always kind people waiting to have fun. Or, if no one is online, OHBot will be there for some fun and/or company.
@Main_Avvie
I hate to hear your considering leaving. Please remember that your opinions are welcome here and no one with a sane mind wants you to leave.
/startlog
That way these debates do not persist. Submit your log to Cyan Support or the community manager, RAWA. (Or inversely, Chogon) Don't expect Burger King style service; this is a donation supported game and should be treated as such. If sexual harassment occurred there's not a lot we can do; we can ban such players, but that damage has already been done. Remember, it's like the ESRB says "Online interactions not rated by th ESRB." Please don't let bad experiences ruin Uru for you; come back, there's always kind people waiting to have fun. Or, if no one is online, OHBot will be there for some fun and/or company.
@Main_Avvie
I hate to hear your considering leaving. Please remember that your opinions are welcome here and no one with a sane mind wants you to leave.
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 5:38 am — Post subject:
no one with a sane mind
By the way, in any debate, calling someone a moron is unacceptable and is just not cool.
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 5:45 am — Post subject:
no one with a sane mind wants you to leave.
By the way, in any debate, calling someone a moron is unacceptable and is just not cool.
I AM NOT A MORON!
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