PaladinOfKaos wrote:

Chogon:

It's already quite possible to send a message to another client telling them to link someplace. We've used it in the HOI before. See ptNetLinkingMgr.linkPlayerToAge

Except that there is AFAIK no way with a common external client to actively retrieve age info of other players' private ages. And adding that functionality would open up the door to a whole new bunch of exploits. Without the age info you cannot link grievers to their own Relto.

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Technical stuff: When you share your Relto with another person, and that person links through the Relto book, I would expect that action to use either linkPlayerToAge(self, ageLink, pid) or more likely linkToAge(self, ageLink). Either way, the client of the person linking must somehow obtain the ageLink of a Relto that does not belong to them. So there is a way to get that sort of information, though I don't know if that approach is applicable here or not. (Paradox pointed me down this path of thought.)

Alternatively, if there is a consistent way to force another player to panic link, that would work as well - then you wouldn't need to know the person's Relto Age. Disabling panic linking might be a common feature in available internal client builds which could be easy enough for a griefer to install, but a griefer eternally falling through the purple mist under your Age is relatively harmless; while not ideal, coupled with an /ignore the person would be nearly as good as not there.

I understand Chogon's concern that a griefer could theoretically build a custom client and ignore specific instructions sent from other clients.... but if they can do that, we've got bigger problems than /kick suddenly not working. Any griefer who can edit their client to ignore anti-griefing measures is probably smart enough to code up pro-griefing functions of their own.

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D'Lanor wrote:

PaladinOfKaos wrote:

Chogon:

It's already quite possible to send a message to another client telling them to link someplace. We've used it in the HOI before. See ptNetLinkingMgr.linkPlayerToAge

Except that there is AFAIK no way with a common external client to actively retrieve age info of other players' private ages. And adding that functionality would open up the door to a whole new bunch of exploits. Without the age info you cannot link grievers to their own Relto.

Eh, you could just download their entire player vault in the C++ code, but that's a hack. I'm pretty sure that sending a LinkToAge message with the rule kOwnedBook would work just as well. I'm not a fan of either of those methods. I think the best way to do it would be to implement a plKickMsg and handle it in the plNetClientMgr. If the user disables that handler, then, like Marten, I think we have bigger problems than an unkickable avatar.

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