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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:29 am — Post subject:
Edited chat log- (took out most extra chatter and all the treats we had...)
(09/16 20:17:20) Chat.log started...
(09/16 20:17:34) Jenine: But don't want to spam
(09/16 20:18:03) Dudemom_2000: You mean like was done with the KI Chain.....ask if someone wants it?
(09/16 20:18:0Cool Jenine: Not sure about how to handle this. Too many explorers with questions and just want to help
(09/16 20:18:15) Jenine: Yes
(09/16 20:18:45) Dudemom_2000: That worked very well and I think Thend put in to give it to at least two other people in the message
(09/16 20:18:4Cool ghaelen: so the question is how to do it?
(09/16 20:18:53) Thend nods his head
(09/16 20:18:57) Jenine: We have never had the chance to play such an important part- want to encourage excitement
(09/16 20:19:01) ghaelen: oh, that's a good idea
(09/16 20:19:0Cool Dudemom_2000: Yes
(09/16 20:19:25) Jenine: And even if they get wrong answers to keep asking
(09/16 20:19:29) Lady Chaos: I doubt that anyone would be offended by it.
(09/16 20:19:29) Thend nods his head
(09/16 20:19:35) ghaelen: Thend, do you usually ask people if they want it?
(09/16 20:19:36) Lady Chaos waves hello
(09/16 20:19:42) ghaelen: hi Tristen, welcome
(09/16 20:19:57) Dudemom_2000: Lol, I think by the end of the week people were asking him for it!
(09/16 20:20:03) ghaelen: aahhh
(09/16 20:20:05) Thend: ghaelen, there is no other way - Unless I am sharing with folks I know well that would be interested
(09/16 20:20:15) ghaelen: ok, so that answers one question
(09/16 20:20:19) Jenine: I saw and wondered what it was- made me curious Thend
(09/16 20:20:23) Thend: They were Dudemom, but most importantly, asking eachother too
(09/16 20:20:45) Dudemom_2000: Yes people were asking each other if they had a particular issue....if they didnt have it...
(09/16 20:20:45) ghaelen looks at the message from Thend for an example
(09/16 20:21:32) Lady Chaos: When we had the KI-mail announcement on D'mala, no one complained.
(09/16 20:21:41) Lady Chaos: We didn't ask before sending. We just sent it to everyone in the Age.
(09/16 20:22:02) Jane: I really can't imagine people minding--it's not like the DRC messages that you can't delete
(09/16 20:22:09) ghaelen: right, lol
(09/16 20:22:10) Lady Chaos: Right.
(09/16 20:22:23) Jenine: I don't know many explorers but have overheard conversations and wrong info given. Would like a way to show them there is more info
(09/16 20:22:35) ghaelen: Thend, ca you send me yours again? I forgot this avie doesn't have it
(09/16 20:22:4Cool Thend: Thing is, Live is larger, even more diverse, if one example is used, then folks may get spammed from everywhere, we have to be aware of the consequences
(09/16 20:22:4Cool Jane: me too, Thend?
(09/16 20:22:5Cool Thend: All 5?
(09/16 20:23:04) Dudemom_2000: well, how about this.....send it out to as many as you can that you think would be receptive and have them pass it on.....then build a subscription list on top of that. Like my group does...
(09/16 20:23:34) Dudemom_2000: i think the Relayer buddy list would probably love to get KI mail in addition.
(09/16 20:23:3Cool Jane: it might be true, we're setting an example--other people might spam sutff that fewer would want
(09/16 20:23:41) Jenine: But all we have in cavern to communicate is KI mail and chat- I'm not going to interupt an ongoing conversation to correct someone
(09/16 20:23:41) Thend: Subs mean more avvies. Dudemom, it empowers folks and gets them into the habit of sharing if it is not fully automatic
(09/16 20:23:43) ghaelen: Dudemom, how do you handle the subscription list?
(09/16 20:23:59) Dudemom_2000: with great difficulty! lol
(09/16 20:24:09) ghaelen: lol, with different avies?
(09/16 20:24:16) Dudemom_2000: we are heading for 250 -300 now....not sure how many the buddy list can carry
(09/16 20:24:23) ghaelen: oh my...
(09/16 20:24:31) Dudemom_2000: and yes, we get a lot of main and alternate avies
(09/16 20:24:39) Lady Chaos: Dudemom, is this the Relayers you're talkinga bout?
(09/16 20:24:43) Dudemom_2000: yup
(09/16 20:24:46) Thend: We need the Cavern to work together and learn to work together, we can't and shouldn't handle everything on our own, give everyone responsibility, even a little bit, and it grows
(09/16 20:25:0Cool ghaelen: yes, send the mail, and ask the recipient to pass it on
(09/16 20:25:15) ghaelen: some will, some won't
(09/16 20:25:20) Dudemom_2000: and the buddy list is transmitted to by one relayer so that one carries them all. I have another alternate buddy list avie that has the list.
(09/16 20:25:24) Lady Chaos waves hello
(09/16 20:25:25) ghaelen: but the more that do will feel like they participate
(09/16 20:25:29) Jenine: I am willing to do that but we need a network to encourage the guilds - all of them
(09/16 20:25:37) ghaelen: yes, all the guilds
(09/16 20:25:46) Dudemom_2000: yes, I think more will send it on than not....someone is more likely to accept it if it is coming from a friend, too.
(09/16 20:26:00) Tristen: yeah
(09/16 20:26:00) Jenine: We will al benifit from them it needs to be encouraged
(09/16 20:26:02) Thend: This is more than about how we can organize, it's about how everyone in the Cavern can
(09/16 20:26:02) Lady Chaos: Do you see this as being a kind of initial introduction to the Guilds, Jenine?
(09/16 20:26:22) Jenine: Yes- just to send them to the structures forming
(09/16 20:26:27) ghaelen: oh Thend, this is impressive
(09/16 20:26:3Cool Tristen: can you help me with it I don't even know where it is
(09/16 20:26:43) Jane: I agree with Thend about the organization
(09/16 20:26:46) Dudemom_2000: well, the information in the KI mail or KI Chain - whatever you want to call it can be information and weblinks to all of the other guilds...
(09/16 20:26:50) ghaelen: what are you lookin for Tristen?
(09/16 20:27:0Cool Thend: (Tristen, on each table is a bunch of shirts, they should be 'clickable')
(09/16 20:27:21) ghaelen goes to help Tristen for a second
(09/16 20:27:32) Dudemom_2000: lol
(09/16 20:27:35) Thend: Dudemom, that would be a good idea for Sharaya's 'Job Day'
(09/16 20:27:39) Dudemom_2000: make sure he reads about the guilds!
(09/16 20:27:45) Jenine: We are going to have to learn how to share this information and it was mentioned in cavern would help- can't just use forums
(09/16 20:27:49) Cojaar helps Smile
(09/16 20:27:53) ghaelen: oh, you got a shirt!
(09/16 20:28:03) Lady Chaos: I think it's better to do it in-cavern.
(09/16 20:28:04) Jane: agree we need to learn how to do stuff in Cavern
(09/16 20:28:05) ghaelen: hi
(09/16 20:28:06) Dudemom_2000: yes it would be an excellent thing to have in place for job day....everyone can have a small KI Mail prepared
(09/16 20:28:23) ghaelen: that's a good idea, Dudemom
(09/16 20:28:29) Jane: would be great if people could play without ever looking at forums unless they want to--for more depth
(09/16 20:28:31) Jenine: Think we may need it before job day although I'm all for that too!
(09/16 20:28:45) ghaelen: Tristen, Cojaar, the info sheets on the tables are informative, too
(09/16 20:28:51) Dudemom_2000: yes, but we have enough time to start it now and work out any "bugs" lol
(09/16 20:28:55) Cojaar: Yeah thx Smile
(09/16 20:28:57) Thend: Jeninre, the more In-Cavern the better. Folks pay to be in Live, not be in the forums. This place has to come alive, with discussions, events, etc, etc
(09/16 20:28:57) ghaelen: we're talking if you'd like to join us
(09/16 20:29:07) Jenine: Also asked Reteltee to petiton the DRC for a notebook of his knowlege
(09/16 20:29:40) ghaelen: can you explain that Jenine?
(09/16 20:29:45) ghaelen: his notebook?
(09/16 20:29:55) Dudemom_2000: I would love to see journal entries continued here in the cavern from the various DRC members too outside of episodes....
(09/16 20:29:55) Jenine: Thought having an explorer contributed notebook may be a good sign
(09/16 20:30:00) Tristen: Yeah
(09/16 20:30:11) Dudemom_2000: yes and one with Reteltee would be wonderful
(09/16 20:30:12) Lady Chaos: I'd like that too, DM.
(09/16 20:30:13) Thend: Btw, I'll be working with ireen on KI Chain for the next Busy Week, as well, and making versions to place on Imagers too, to further test-run everything
(09/16 20:30:20) Jenine: He agreed- hope he is not sick of my pestyness
(09/16 20:30:26) ghaelen: lol
(09/16 20:30:31) Dudemom_2000: lol
(09/16 20:30:31) ghaelen: me too, Jenine
(09/16 20:30:32) Tristen: Yeah
(09/16 20:30:41) Thend: I think Reteltee wants to assist anywhere he is able
(09/16 20:30:47) Dudemom_2000: yes.
(09/16 20:31:05) Cojaar: Ok
(09/16 20:31:33) ghaelen: ok, so the Ki-mail is about the guilds in general, and is designed to show support for all of them
(09/16 20:31:45) Lady Chaos: What do you imagine this being, Jenine? A one-page precis about each Guild?
(09/16 20:31:46) Jenine: Yep!
(09/16 20:31:54) Dudemom_2000: So would you be able to come up with a small template on a sample KI Mail that we can use to draft ours for Job Day?
(09/16 20:32:0Cool Jenine: I posted a temp paragragh on the forum but it needs work
(09/16 20:32:25) Jenine: Want it to stay very general but encouraging
(09/16 20:32:25) ghaelen: or maybe one page about a short history of them and what Dr. Watson said about them?
(09/16 20:32:29) Cojaar: lol
(09/16 20:32:29) Jane: bye Cojaar
(09/16 20:32:41) Cojaar: Heeeeeeeeeeelp
(09/16 20:32:46) Lady Chaos: Including Watson's statment would be good.
(09/16 20:32:46) Jenine: No history- leave that to Reteltee he's the expert
(09/16 20:32:56) ghaelen: ok, no history
(09/16 20:33:20) Lady Chaos: Shorah, Ruby.
(09/16 20:33:20) Jane: hi Ruby!
(09/16 20:33:22) Dudemom_2000: or how about an overview of the guilds and if Reteltee gets a notebook, then he can put stuff like what Watson said..
(09/16 20:33:25) Jane: we're in the auditorium
(09/16 20:33:27) From Ruby O'Degee in (null) Kirel: hi yall
(09/16 20:33:40) ghaelen: and general info
(09/16 20:33:45) Dudemom_2000: yes
(09/16 20:33:46) ghaelen: that sounds like a nice one pager
(09/16 20:33:4Cool Ruby O'Degee: oops hi y'all that is soutern for hi
(09/16 20:33:52) Ruby O'Degee: oops
(09/16 20:33:55) ghaelen: hi Ruby!
(09/16 20:34:00) Jane: lol
(09/16 20:34:00) Jenine: Yep must stay neutral and short
(09/16 20:34:00) Dudemom_2000: hi Ruby
(09/16 20:34:06) Dudemom_2000: yes
(09/16 20:34:07) Thend: Hello Ruby
(09/16 20:34:12) Ruby O'Degee: hi is there a party here?
(09/16 20:34:13) ghaelen: hi abrownie!
(09/16 20:34:20) Thend: Two very good points Jenine
(09/16 20:34:24) Lady Chaos: And put a reference to the summaries on the tables here.
(09/16 20:34:2Cool Jenine: Could we use the forums to iron out the bugs of the message
(09/16 20:34:2Cool Dudemom_2000: yes
(09/16 20:34:29) ghaelen: we're in the auditorium, Ruby
(09/16 20:34:33) Jane: it's a non-meeting meeting, Ruby Smile
(09/16 20:34:57) Lady Chaos starts to laugh
(09/16 20:34:5Cool Jenine: Then how will we give it out?
(09/16 20:35:16) ghaelen: I think you should start it, Jenine
(09/16 20:35:22) Lady Chaos: I'd say just mail it to everyone.
(09/16 20:35:25) abrownie1371 waves hello
(09/16 20:35:33) ghaelen: doesn't the originators name show up on them?
(09/16 20:35:36) ghaelen: let me look
(09/16 20:37:11) Lady Chaos: Hi, Cojaar.
(09/16 20:37:4Cool ghaelen: well, Jenine, I thought your initial paragraph was a nice start
(09/16 20:37:52) ghaelen: on the forum
(09/16 20:38:06) Lady Chaos makes a note to re-read that.
(09/16 20:38:07) Dudemom_2000: ooh let me go check it out...brb
(09/16 20:38:13) Jenine: Could all of you look it over and make suggestions
(09/16 20:38:27) Jenine: Then how will we share it?
(09/16 20:38:31) Jane: do you want us to go read it right now, Jenine?
(09/16 20:38:37) ghaelen: sure, suggest here or post suggestions?
(09/16 20:38:47) Lady Chaos: You write it up as KI mail, send it to everyone. Simple. <G>
(09/16 20:38:57) Thend nods his head
(09/16 20:39:05) Lady Chaos: Note that whenever someone changes it, everyone's will change.
(09/16 20:39:0Cool Jenine: Whenever you have time... Doesn't have to be now. I don't have it in a KI mail yet so can't share here
(09/16 20:39:17) ghaelen: ok
(09/16 20:39:21) Jane: that's a good point, LC
(09/16 20:39:29) Jane: I forget about that
(09/16 20:39:31) ghaelen: then we could meet briefly again to start it?
(09/16 20:39:43) Thend: Best ideas are succinct as possible. Better digestion of them
(09/16 20:39:44) Jenine: How will we share it?
(09/16 20:40:16) ghaelen: well, if each of us has it, we could just start by asking friends if they would like it
(09/16 20:40:19) Jenine: And let the guilds not get upset- we want to help them
(09/16 20:40:19) Jane: once you get suggestions from the forum, you could write up the first one & we could meet so you could give it to us?
(09/16 20:40:37) ghaelen nods in agreement with Jane
(09/16 20:40:49) Jenine: Got a thread on the MOUl forum about viral KI mail
(09/16 20:41:04) Jane: really?! yikes
(09/16 20:41:23) ghaelen: lol, I did wonder about the "viral" part
(09/16 20:41:27) abrownie1371 waves hello
(09/16 20:41:40) Zola: sorry
(09/16 20:41:43) Jenine: Didn't know what else to call it???
(09/16 20:41:46) ghaelen: hi Manida, Zola!
(09/16 20:41:51) Thend: Viral's an okay descriptive word, but may be misinterpreted
(09/16 20:41:53) ghaelen: lol
(09/16 20:41:57) Jane: oh I misunderstood
(09/16 20:41:59) Manida: hi Smile
(09/16 20:42:06) ghaelen feels a little silly for misinterpreting...
(09/16 20:42:0Cool Jane: I thought you meant someone really had done a virus
(09/16 20:42:22) Jenine: Sorry..
(09/16 20:42:26) Zola: I've been around since before URU
(09/16 20:42:2Cool ghaelen: we're talking about supporting the guilds, Manida, if you'd like to join us
(09/16 20:42:31) Jane is relieved that she isn't the only one who misunderstood
(09/16 20:42:35) Jenine: I can edit or start a new post...
(09/16 20:42:53) Manida: thx, but today i prefer to play a bit Wink
(09/16 20:43:00) Jenine: Just would like input before we go public
(09/16 20:43:15) Jenine: Make sure not to step on toes
(09/16 20:43:29) ghaelen: maybe just the title, and replace viral with....
(09/16 20:43:31) ghaelen: hmmm
(09/16 20:43:56) Jane: "informational"? lol
(09/16 20:44:04) ghaelen: lol
(09/16 20:44:09) ghaelen: yes, that would work
(09/16 20:44:2Cool Jane: a bit corporate, but at least not alarming
(09/16 20:44:39) ghaelen: lol
(09/16 20:44:47) Jenine: on the forum I mean
(09/16 20:44:50) ghaelen: general section?
(09/16 20:44:56) Lady Chaos: There's a quick verison of what Jenine wrote.
(09/16 20:44:5Cool ghaelen: general discussion section?
(09/16 20:45:11) Jane: in the forums? I didn't look there this morning yet
(09/16 20:45:11) Dudemom_2000: yes, they have seemed calmer here recently.
(09/16 20:45:16) Lady Chaos: It's in the Guilds subforum. I jsut typed it up and sent it to you all.
(09/16 20:45:22) Thend: I stay away from forums unless absolutley necessary lol
(09/16 20:45:27) Jane: thanks LC!
(09/16 20:45:30) Thend: Thank you LC
(09/16 20:45:33) Lady Chaos: TY
(09/16 20:45:36) Jane: I'm with you, Thend Smile
(09/16 20:45:40) Veralun: gracias
(09/16 20:45:47) Lady Chaos: That's not intended to be final. Just a test sample.
(09/16 20:45:5Cool ghaelen: I'm trying to...
(09/16 20:45:5Cool Lady Chaos: Basically, copied from what Jenine wrote.
(09/16 20:46:05) Jenine: I am a little cool with my writing maybe you could warm it up a bit- friendlier
(09/16 20:46:07) Dudemom_2000: very nice. I like it.
(09/16 20:46:15) ghaelen: no, Jenine, I like it
(09/16 20:46:24) Jane: yes I like it too
(09/16 20:46:33) ghaelen: it's quite friendly
(09/16 20:46:43) Veralun: good one
(09/16 20:46:4Cool Lady Chaos: Note that I did some editing and amending on the fly.
(09/16 20:47:0Cool Jenine: LC thank you
(09/16 20:47:17) Lady Chaos: You're welcome.
(09/16 20:47:52) Thend: Looks good LC. Needs an 'e' in 'interested' in last sentence, but otherwise fine Wink
(09/16 20:47:56) Lady Chaos: It could probably be made more direct, and clear.
(09/16 20:48:05) Lady Chaos: Well, yes... I was typing as fast as I could go. <G>
(09/16 20:48:06) Jane: picky point . . . when it says "You reach them by selecting a shirt" the "them" seems to refer to "Guild Tables" rather than the pubs
(09/16 20:48:14) ghaelen: lol
(09/16 20:48:23) Thend is a good proofreader, but ironically typos all the time himself lol
(09/16 20:48:29) ghaelen: and don't forget the Kirel Baked Treats on those tables
(09/16 20:48:37) Jane: same here, Thend
(09/16 20:48:40) ghaelen is kidding...
(09/16 20:48:41) Dudemom_2000: that is a good introduction.
(09/16 20:48:59) Thend nods his head
(09/16 20:49:02) Jenine: Treats? Where
(09/16 20:49:07) ghaelen: lol
(09/16 20:49:09) Veralun: true Ghaelen we need them too
(09/16 20:49:15) Thend: Jenine, focus...
(09/16 20:49:17) Dudemom_2000: and then those interested in the various guilds could have KI mails that would add information....
(09/16 20:49:22) Jenine: I'f only we could bribe with food
(09/16 20:49:29) ghaelen: lol
(09/16 20:49:29) Lady Chaos: I made the corrections.
(09/16 20:49:44) Dudemom_2000: I mean those already participating and have knowledge....
(09/16 20:49:4Cool Ruby O'Degee: oh dear
(09/16 20:49:56) Jane: uh . . . did you get the extra "i" in "beiginning" LC?
(09/16 20:50:01) ghaelen: so there would be more KImails if they want more info?
(09/16 20:50:13) ghaelen: DRC approved.....
(09/16 20:50:30) Jenine: Guilds can deal with their own KI mails- maybe this will give them the idea
(09/16 20:50:31) Lady Chaos: OK. Fixed that one.
(09/16 20:50:41) ghaelen: true, Jenine
(09/16 20:50:45) Lady Chaos: Good idea, Jenine.
(09/16 20:51:46) Ruby O'Degee ruby sits quietly very concerned and develops a twitch
(09/16 20:51:5Cool Jane: better make a big pot, lol
(09/16 20:52:00) Thend wonders what he walked into
(09/16 20:52:05) Lady Chaos: Instead of twitching, tell us what concerns you, Ruby!
(09/16 20:52:06) Jane: lol @ Ruby
(09/16 20:52:11) Dudemom_2000 pokes Thend with an apricot
(09/16 20:52:15) Jenine: Sorry- so how will we share?
(09/16 20:52:23) Ruby O'Degee: no , I have no concerns
(09/16 20:52:31) Ruby O'Degee: itg was about the baked treats
(09/16 20:52:56) ghaelen: so, yes, Jenine, how will we share the KI mails?
(09/16 20:53:0Cool Thend starts to laugh
(09/16 20:53:0Cool Jane: sorry, Jenine we seem to have gotten a bit off topic . . .
(09/16 20:54:49) ghaelen: er.... the KI mail?
(09/16 20:54:56) Dudemom_2000: oh, yes back to the KI Mail
(09/16 20:55:09) Jane: KI mail? lol oops
(09/16 20:55:11) ghaelen: zola did you pick any other shirts first?
(09/16 20:55:20) ghaelen: what is KI mail?
(09/16 20:55:31) ghaelen: Hi ashanti, eillan!
(09/16 20:55:33) Jane: but it should substitute the maintainer's shirt anyway should nt it?
(09/16 20:55:33) ghaelen: welcome
(09/16 20:55:40) eillan: hi
(09/16 20:55:41) ashanti: shorah
(09/16 20:55:42) Jane: even if he did pick another first
(09/16 20:55:42) Zola: I know I had mine but I picked up the explorers kit
(09/16 20:55:43) eillan: what'
(09/16 20:55:46) eillan: s going on?
(09/16 20:55:50) Lady Chaos: Yes. It should give you the shirt you click on most recently.
(09/16 20:55:56) Jane: shorah eillan
(09/16 20:55:57) Zola: and my shirt disapeared
(09/16 20:56:00) ghaelen: well, I found after three shirts, it froze me
(09/16 20:56:0Cool Dudemom_2000: it is in your closet, Zola
(09/16 20:56:0Cool Jane: ah
(09/16 20:56:09) ghaelen: oh nooo
(09/16 20:56:10) Jane: shirt bug
(09/16 20:56:17) Thend: eillan, discussing food and shirts and Guilds
(09/16 20:56:20) Lady Chaos has no bugs on her shirt!
(09/16 20:56:22) ghaelen: we are talking about supporting the guilds, eillan
(09/16 20:56:27) eillan: ah
(09/16 20:56:29) Jane: maybe it crawled inside, LC
(09/16 20:56:32) Jenine: Shirt bugs? don't make me itchy
(09/16 20:56:35) ghaelen: about drafting a KI mail to pass on
(09/16 20:56:3Cool ghaelen: general information
(09/16 20:56:42) Lady Chaos: EeEEEKK
(09/16 20:56:46) Jane: LOL
(09/16 20:56:52) eillan: cheers
(09/16 20:56:52) Lady Chaos scratches furiously
(09/16 20:56:55) ghaelen: now Lady Chaos
(09/16 20:56:59) ghaelen: lol
(09/16 20:57:0Cool Lady Chaos: "Out, darned bug!"
(09/16 20:58:34) Thend: Jenine, how does this proposed KI mail differ from just telling someone interested to check out Kirel and the Guild info there?
(09/16 20:58:40) Zola: OK that worked thanks
(09/16 20:58:49) Jane cheers
(09/16 20:59:11) Lady Chaos: Thend, as I see it, this is more direct.
(09/16 20:59:11) ghaelen: so earlier is better
(09/16 20:59:19) Lady Chaos: It's easy to miss the Kirel thing.
(09/16 20:59:24) Jenine: I'm shy thought it would be a way to share... To afraid to interupt a conversation. Plus a reminder
(09/16 20:59:24) ghaelen: and Thend, I don't have to type it over and over
(09/16 20:59:2Cool Jane: the more info the better
(09/16 20:59:40) ghaelen: and it gets other people involved
(09/16 20:59:51) Jane: communication flowing
(09/16 20:59:59) Jane: people talking to each other
(09/16 21:00:12) ghaelen: hi narrymanic
(09/16 21:00:22) Zola: do you mine of I join
(09/16 21:00:25) Zola: in
(09/16 21:00:27) Thend: One would have to interrupt to ask if someone wanted the KImail, then there's the scrolling to send it to them, etc, but I see your point
(09/16 21:00:30) Dudemom_2000: come on in Zola
(09/16 21:00:30) Jane: come on in, Zola
(09/16 21:00:31) ghaelen: oh please do!
(09/16 21:00:4Cool ghaelen: great to have you
(09/16 21:00:54) Jenine: Hi
(09/16 21:01:00) Zola: thanks
(09/16 21:01:01) Lady Chaos: We're talkinga bout how to support Guild formation.
(09/16 21:01:12) Zola: cool
(09/16 21:01:14) ghaelen: and just support the guilds in general
(09/16 21:01:21) Jane: & foster communication in general
(09/16 21:01:24) Lady Chaos: I just sent you a sample KI mail/
(09/16 21:01:2Cool ghaelen: and talk
(09/16 21:01:34) ghaelen: and drink coffee and wine
(09/16 21:01:3Cool Jane: yes!!!
(09/16 21:01:3Cool Dudemom_2000: lol
(09/16 21:02:1Cool Jenine: Thend- is there another way? better?
(09/16 21:04:03) Thend: Jenine, just considering. Want to find the simplest way for communication, and fosatering it, and every different idea has its own answers to that. If word-of-mouth can't be done with this idea, or it would be too complicated, then yes, the step up to a KImail is probably sensible
(09/16 21:04:20) Dudemom_2000 nods her head
(09/16 21:04:2Cool Lady Chaos: Word of mouth works even better, but this needs more than the usual one line.
(09/16 21:04:30) ghaelen: ok, so we do our thing while we are in the cavern, and if the subject of guilds comes up, we can ask if anyone would like general information?
(09/16 21:04:33) Jane: well we could do both, Thend--talk to people when we have time or they want to
(09/16 21:04:37) Jenine: Thought we could counter the DRC with our own messages- show we have some power
(09/16 21:04:42) Jane: & send KI mails when that seems to work better
(09/16 21:04:49) Jenine: Work with what we have
(09/16 21:04:51) Ruby O'Degee: I like that
(09/16 21:04:55) ghaelen: oooohhh, now I see Jenine's plan...
(09/16 21:04:56) Lady Chaos: Right. KI-mail for when more detail is desired.
(09/16 21:05:11) Jane: I like the idea of countering the DRC!
(09/16 21:05:21) Jane: grass roots movement Smile
(09/16 21:05:23) Lady Chaos: Yes... Jenine is secretly plotting the overthrow of the DRC!
(09/16 21:05:23) Ruby O'Degee: me too Jane, just a little here and there
(09/16 21:05:25) ghaelen: shorah, Aura!
(09/16 21:05:30) Jenine: They are not the only ones that can issue messages
(09/16 21:05:33) ghaelen: we are in the auditorium
(09/16 21:05:35) Aura: Shorah everyone
(09/16 21:05:3Cool Thend can't help but like that particualr aspect either >Smile
(09/16 21:05:39) Jane: hi Aura
(09/16 21:05:42) Zola: I think there is a problem with w O M
(09/16 21:05:43) Lady Chaos: Shorah, Aura.
(09/16 21:05:54) ghaelen: to bad we can't send the DRC non-deleteable messages
(09/16 21:05:59) Jenine: lol
(09/16 21:06:00) Zola: If you are out for a couple of days you might
(09/16 21:06:00) Jane: LOLOL
(09/16 21:06:03) Lady Chaos: Zola, I don't udnerstand.
(09/16 21:06:06) Jane: I like that idea, ghaelen
(09/16 21:06:0Cool Zola: miss something but
(09/16 21:06:09) Jane: we'd show 'em!
(09/16 21:06:13) Veralun: maybe if we are nice to the DRC
(09/16 21:06:1Cool Zola: if it's on K mail
(09/16 21:06:27) Jenine: That' s the spirit I was looking for!!!
(09/16 21:06:33) Zola: then it s there waiting for you
(09/16 21:06:34) ghaelen: oh yes, a person could look again, Zola?
(09/16 21:06:39) Thend: Best of luck with that Veralun lol
(09/16 21:06:40) Lady Chaos: Good point, Zola.
(09/16 21:06:41) Zola: when you get bakc
(09/16 21:06:43) Veralun: because I see possibilities why this cannot be done with the cooperation from the DRC
(09/16 21:06:43) Jane: that's true, Zola
(09/16 21:07:01) ghaelen: Veralun they won't cooperate?
(09/16 21:07:04) Lady Chaos: I'd be nice to the DRC... if I ever saw them.
(09/16 21:07:10) ghaelen: or we should cooperate with them?
(09/16 21:07:12) Jenine: We can share our messages without the DRC
(09/16 21:07:14) Zola: AH yes the DRC
(09/16 21:07:14) Jane: lol LC
(09/16 21:07:20) Lady Chaos: I've invited them to parties. What more can I do?
(09/16 21:07:27) Jenine: We do all the time on the forums- we need in cavern
(09/16 21:07:41) Thend: Same here LC - nuthin' lol
(09/16 21:08:01) Lady Chaos: They didn't even come to the Day of Dancing.
(09/16 21:08:02) Jenine: I'll come to parties.... don't dance thought
(09/16 21:08:03) Thend: Okay Jenine, those are very good points
(09/16 21:08:10) Zola: what we need is group mailing lists
(09/16 21:08:19) Jane: I've never met any of them--I'm hardly ever on at the same time
(09/16 21:08:22) Veralun: true they do not like dancing I suppose
(09/16 21:08:31) Dudemom_2000: Nick does, lol
(09/16 21:08:33) Jane: you don't have to dance, Jenine
(09/16 21:08:3Cool ghaelen: awwww, I thought Laxman danced up a storm once
(09/16 21:08:46) Jane: just hang out & have fun Smile
(09/16 21:08:4Cool Veralun: wow
(09/16 21:08:49) Lady Chaos: Zola, you can sort of use your Buddies list as a mailing list, but yes. It could be better.
(09/16 21:08:50) ghaelen: maybe that was someone else
(09/16 21:09:00) Dudemom_2000: lol
(09/16 21:09:23) Zola: I can send one message to all my buddys?
(09/16 21:09:26) Thend: Zola, I was saying earlier, encouraging explorers to share is an important point, and a good habit to promote. More anonyous mailings may not best assist that. Though, like I said, every message/project has it's own way of best getting done
(09/16 21:09:36) ghaelen: oh wouldn't that be great, Zola?
(09/16 21:09:3Cool Veralun likes to dance with Cate and step on purpose on her foot
(09/16 21:09:47) ghaelen: lolol
(09/16 21:09:54) ghaelen: did you actually dance with her?
(09/16 21:09:56) ghaelen: wow
(09/16 21:10:02) Lady Chaos: Right now we can't do that, Zola. I meant that you can use your Buddies list as a reminder of who to send things to.
(09/16 21:10:13) Jane: but Thend, if we're passing on messages to people we know, it's not so anonymous
(09/16 21:10:20) Zola: AH yes
(09/16 21:10:27) ghaelen: well, I still think that the more personal approach makes new people feel more welcome
(09/16 21:10:30) Thend: Jane, who said only people we know?
(09/16 21:10:36) ghaelen: and not so much like newbies (and dumb)
(09/16 21:10:45) Jenine: What if I want to send it to someone I don't know- just run into
(09/16 21:10:53) Jane: well I wouldn't send them to strangers unless they asked or said OK
(09/16 21:10:57) Dudemom_2000: I prefer to send the message to either people I know, who I know will want it and pass it on, or people I meet that express an interest in it once I tell them....
(09/16 21:10:5Cool Lady Chaos: Or at least lets them know that we were all newbies at one time.
(09/16 21:10:59) ghaelen: you can always aks about that
(09/16 21:11:01) Thend: We gotta do that, PLUS reach out, and encourage everyone to do the same, no one slips through the cracks on my watch if I can help it Wink
(09/16 21:11:09) ghaelen: yes, DM, networking
(09/16 21:11:13) Veralun: once the KI posting is started to ppl we know they will pass it to others
(09/16 21:11:17) Jane: you are good at that, Thend Smile
(09/16 21:11:19) ghaelen: yeah
(09/16 21:11:21) Veralun: ppl will speak about it
(09/16 21:11:22) Jenine thanks Thend
(09/16 21:11:2Cool Dudemom_2000: yes, that's the word, ghaelen! Networking
(09/16 21:11:31) ghaelen: yes they will
(09/16 21:11:43) Dudemom_2000: and they will pass it to their friends, etc.
(09/16 21:11:44) ghaelen: they will talk to people I will never meet
(09/16 21:11:49) Veralun: right
(09/16 21:11:54) ghaelen: but the message will keep going
(09/16 21:11:56) Lady Chaos: Yes. That's why it's called "viral."
(09/16 21:12:00) Dudemom_2000: six degrees of separation!
(09/16 21:12:13) Lady Chaos: Shorah, Kerryth!
(09/16 21:12:14) Thend: The Cavern needs a change in perception of how we do things we already do here. We have a wonderful foundation of folks
(09/16 21:12:15) ghaelen: so maybe replace "viral" with "networking?
(09/16 21:12:17) ghaelen: lol
(09/16 21:12:20) Jenine: It seems to be our only available tool
(09/16 21:12:23) Dudemom_2000: hi Kerryth
(09/16 21:12:24) ghaelen: well hi, Kerryth!
(09/16 21:12:2Cool Jane: also, if I have a purpose to be online & talking to people, I will probably be more social & talkative too
(09/16 21:12:32) Kerryth: Shorah!
(09/16 21:12:32) Thend: Hello Kerryth
(09/16 21:12:34) ghaelen: nice to see you
(09/16 21:12:34) Jane: hi Kerryth!
(09/16 21:12:3Cool Dudemom_2000: yes networking sound better
(09/16 21:12:41) Thend nods his head
(09/16 21:12:42) Veralun: You can use the forum and the imagers to attent the ppl on the KI mail
(09/16 21:12:43) Lady Chaos thinks Jane has a big problem with being social
(09/16 21:12:46) Lady Chaos starts to laugh
(09/16 21:12:4Cool Thend: Networking is sooo important
(09/16 21:12:52) Jenine: Networking is much better TY
(09/16 21:12:54) Jane: lol LC
(09/16 21:12:5Cool Thend lol's at LC
(09/16 21:13:01) ghaelen: yes it is Thend
(09/16 21:13:0Cool Dudemom_2000: So that is what I am doing when I am Bevin hopping?
(09/16 21:13:09) Lady Chaos: People appreciate networking that isn't the precursor to control.
(09/16 21:13:20) ghaelen: and it is important for socializing, too
(09/16 21:13:27) ghaelen: and for meeting people of like mind
(09/16 21:13:39) Kerryth: And getting past one's own shyness.
(09/16 21:13:42) Dudemom_2000: yes
(09/16 21:13:44) ghaelen: each of us will go out into our various circles, and talk about this
(09/16 21:13:45) Jane nods her head
(09/16 21:13:47) Jenine: Although viral got some of you here Smile
(09/16 21:13:52) ghaelen: lolol
(09/16 21:13:52) Dudemom_2000: lol
(09/16 21:13:52) Lady Chaos starts to laugh
(09/16 21:13:55) Jane: lol
(09/16 21:13:59) ghaelen: ah ha ha ha
(09/16 21:14:03) ghaelen: that was good, Jenine
(09/16 21:14:06) Dudemom_2000 sneezes
(09/16 21:14:07) Jane: LC & ghaelen got me here Smile
(09/16 21:14:14) Jane: I missed the thread
(09/16 21:14:16) Lady Chaos: Yep. Twisted her arm...
(09/16 21:14:19) Jenine: Their great!
(09/16 21:14:22) Kerryth: I just this second found it on the forum. Smile
(09/16 21:14:22) Jane: forced me! hahaha
(09/16 21:14:33) ghaelen: glad you did, Kerryth!
(09/16 21:14:36) Dudemom_2000: well, I saw the thread and decided to come. THIS is the type of meeting I envisioned
(09/16 21:14:42) Thend: I just fall into things like this, I don't know how I get anywhere lol
(09/16 21:14:43) ghaelen: well, I saw the value in the idea
(09/16 21:15:01) ghaelen: and these old boots can move when they need to
(09/16 21:15:0Cool Jenine: Me too- Positive and productive- no needing control
(09/16 21:15:0Cool ghaelen: lol@Thend
(09/16 21:15:0Cool Lady Chaos: Well, um, Thend, I know this will embarrass you, but it could very well have something to do with the fact that you're a nice guy.
(09/16 21:15:09) Jane: you do seem to have your finger on the pulse of Uru, Thend Smile
(09/16 21:15:12) Thend: But good point Jenine, and I agree with ghaelen
(09/16 21:15:21) Dudemom_2000: I would like to see more impromptu meetings like this and I would like to see others interested in the other guilds come
(09/16 21:15:23) Ruby O'Degee: and I just wanted to listen to any valid reasonable idea
(09/16 21:15:27) Thend flinches
(09/16 21:15:34) Dudemom_2000: Thend is Uber!
(09/16 21:15:36) Jenine: Call me anytime
(09/16 21:15:43) Lady Chaos: Ok, Anytime.
(09/16 21:15:4Cool Jane groans
(09/16 21:15:52) Thend: Thank you Jenine Smile
(09/16 21:15:56) ghaelen: sure, got an idea? get together and see what happens
(09/16 21:15:5Cool Ruby O'Degee groans too
(09/16 21:16:00) Dudemom_2000: thanks, Jenine...great idea
(09/16 21:16:04) Jenine: If we show we care about the future it will come...
(09/16 21:16:05) Dudemom_2000: yes.
(09/16 21:16:13) Kerryth: true
(09/16 21:16:24) Jane: & we will have a hand in it
(09/16 21:16:2Cool ghaelen: it's amazing how much gets done when there is no agenda... or maybe only one agenda, like food
(09/16 21:16:30) Lady Chaos: Well, the future comes whether you want it or not. Caring is more likely to make it a good fugture.
(09/16 21:16:32) Dudemom_2000: yes
(09/16 21:16:33) Thend: She groans, They groan.. and Thend groans, as well
(09/16 21:17:03) Jane: thank you, Jenine
(09/16 21:17:05) ghaelen: thank you, Jenine! this was really a good idea
(09/16 21:17:07) Jane: ooooooooh
(09/16 21:17:10) Lady Chaos: What? They don't blow up in your face!
(09/16 21:17:13) Jenine: Now anyone want to show me how to "share" a KI mail!!!
(09/16 21:24:59) ghaelen: ok, so we discuss the paragraph on the forum, and once that is set, Jenine types it up and we all come to get it?
(09/16 21:25:03) Lady Chaos: You're welcome... but it's basically what Jenine wrote.
(09/16 21:25:04) Jenine: Could we still post a final draft on the forum to let anyone share?
(09/16 21:25:07) Dudemom_2000: sure
(09/16 21:25:17) ghaelen: oh, we type one up ourselves?
(09/16 21:25:25) ghaelen: from the forum paragraph?
(09/16 21:25:34) Jenine: Yep
(09/16 21:25:36) Kerryth: I don't think you can paste text into the KI. Or can you?
(09/16 21:25:39) Lady Chaos: Depends on how unified an approach you want.
(09/16 21:25:40) Thend: Info should have no restrictions, as long as it's passed along accurately
(09/16 21:25:42) Lady Chaos: No pasting.
(09/16 21:25:44) ghaelen: ok
(09/16 21:25:49) ghaelen: sounds good
(09/16 21:25:49) Jane: I don't think so, either, Kerryth
(09/16 21:25:50) Dudemom_2000: nope dont think you can, Kerryth
(09/16 21:25:52) Jane: have to retype
(09/16 21:25:59) Kerryth: Well, sometimes it would be handy...
(09/16 21:26:00) ghaelen: hi Rihm!
(09/16 21:26:1Cool ghaelen: a lot of things would be handy with these KI communicators
(09/16 21:26:2Cool Lady Chaos: Yes... such as reliability.
(09/16 21:26:36) Thend: Sure would Kerryth, but like the original D'ni that came to the Cavern, we need to live humbly here lol
(09/16 21:26:3Cool ghaelen starts to laugh
(09/16 21:26:45) Kerryth: Indeed.
(09/16 21:26:52) Jenine: Had a version of KIpod- but never heard if it was considered... Smile
(09/16 21:26:59) Kerryth: And type quickly.
(09/16 21:27:03) Lady Chaos: I mean... relinking to an Age two or three times just to show up on everyone's lists is a bit uch.
(09/16 21:27:07) ghaelen: yeah, that was funny, the KIpod
(09/16 21:27:13) Veralun: lol
(09/16 21:27:15) Kerryth laughs
(09/16 21:27:1Cool Dudemom_2000: I submitted a feature to have a couple more buddy lists so you could specialize
(09/16 21:27:19) Zola: well noe that I've had my fill and gained 20 LB I have to run. Thaqnks for letting me sit in.
(09/16 21:27:20) ghaelen: huh, people are on my list today
(09/16 21:27:23) Thend: Jenine, do you think you will be doing more of these sorta KImails then?
(09/16 21:27:25) ghaelen: lolol
(09/16 21:27:2Cool Thend: Seeya Zola
(09/16 21:27:31) Lady Chaos waves goodbye
(09/16 21:27:31) Jane: ooh a KIpod is a good idea!
(09/16 21:27:33) ghaelen: great to see you Zola!
(09/16 21:27:35) Zola: What Forum are we talking about?
(09/16 21:27:37) Lady Chaos: Bye, Zola...
(09/16 21:27:3Cool Kerryth waves goodbye
(09/16 21:27:39) Dudemom_2000: bye Zola
(09/16 21:27:39) Jane: bye Zola
(09/16 21:27:42) ghaelen: the MOUL forum
(09/16 21:27:44) Lady Chaos: The Uru Live.
(09/16 21:27:45) Veralun: CU Zola
(09/16 21:27:55) Zola: thanks
(09/16 21:27:55) ghaelen: probably in the guild section, right, Jenine?
(09/16 21:27:57) Dudemom_2000: www.mystonline.com
(09/16 21:28:02) Lady Chaos: Guilds, yes.
(09/16 21:28:05) Jenine: If we need them- think we should. I'll bug Reteltee and see what he thinks...
(09/16 21:28:1Cool ghaelen giggles at bugging reteltee
(09/16 21:28:21) Lady Chaos: If we need what?
(09/16 21:28:24) ghaelen: yes, you should do that
(09/16 21:28:24) Jenine: Really want the guilds to realize they can do this too
(09/16 21:28:25) ghaelen: lol
(09/16 21:28:43) Dudemom_2000: yes. lead by example!
(09/16 21:28:47) Jane cheers
(09/16 21:28:47) Thend: Okay Jenine, then consider a name for your missives, for identification from other KImails out there, name-recognition
(09/16 21:29:01) Lady Chaos: Exactly. The Modus Operandi of the Rooftop Volunteer Group!
(09/16 21:29:01) Dudemom_2000: not KI Mail
(09/16 21:29:03) ghaelen: the title, you mean?
(09/16 21:29:06) Dudemom_2000: lol
(09/16 21:29:07) Dudemom_2000: yes
(09/16 21:29:12) ghaelen: huh?
(09/16 21:29:12) Jenine: I sent him a resume a month ago- told me I was hired but what was I to do for his cause
(09/16 21:29:19) Dudemom_2000: I like Thend's
(09/16 21:29:19) ghaelen starts to laugh
(09/16 21:29:24) Thend: Possibly anyway. Unless you want them to look as DRCish as possible, which is also a great idea
(09/16 21:29:3Cool ghaelen: make them look guild-ish
(09/16 21:29:40) Thend: LOL Jenine. That Reteltee
(09/16 21:29:52) Veralun: If this works we can make a workthrough for this on the forum and I can sticky that topic
(09/16 21:30:05) Jenine: Made me come up with my own tasks - smart man
(09/16 21:30:07) Lady Chaos: That would be good.
(09/16 21:30:0Cool ghaelen: oh, I like "sticky"
(09/16 21:30:16) Lady Chaos hands Gh aelen som eglue
(09/16 21:30:17) Veralun: because this is valuable info
(09/16 21:30:25) ghaelen: Sticky Guild KI Mail
(09/16 21:30:30) ghaelen: no, no, no
(09/16 21:30:33) Dudemom_2000: nope
(09/16 21:30:35) Jane: lolol
(09/16 21:30:59) Dudemom_2000: something catch....like the KI Chain was
(09/16 21:31:01) ghaelen: maybe just Support our Local Guild?
(09/16 21:31:03) Lady Chaos: That's what Eskimo use to hold their houses together. Igloo.
(09/16 21:31:04) ghaelen: your
(09/16 21:31:06) Jenine: Must contain the word support! stays generic
(09/16 21:31:0Cool ghaelen: no, no, no
(09/16 21:31:16) Jane groans again at LC
(09/16 21:31:25) ghaelen: lol
(09/16 21:31:2Cool Jenine: Guild Support Network KI Mail
(09/16 21:31:29) Veralun: remember when you want you post stickied and edit later that you have to make 2 posts and use the second one for editing
(09/16 21:31:3Cool ghaelen: oh, that's nice, Jenine
(09/16 21:31:43) Jane thinks secretly that that was a pretty good one, but doesn't want to encourage LC, lol
(09/16 21:31:51) Dudemom_2000: the GSN
(09/16 21:31:56) ghaelen: GSN
(09/16 21:31:59) Lady Chaos feels encouraged anyway... as she's incorigible
(09/16 21:32:01) ghaelen: huh, nice
(09/16 21:32:05) Jenine: love to play with words
(09/16 21:32:17) Kerryth: That's really good.
(09/16 21:32:21) ghaelen: so make two posts, Jenine
(09/16 21:32:2Cool ghaelen: right?
(09/16 21:32:30) Jane: yes she is Smile (@ LC)
(09/16 21:32:35) Thend: jenine, that could go along the bottom of the KImail, and the info about passing to 2 interested people (if you wanna use that) should be in there somewhere as well
(09/16 21:33:00) Veralun: yes
(09/16 21:33:06) Thend: The name could go*
(09/16 21:33:23) Lady Chaos: I just updated the KI mail with the GSN info. <G>
(09/16 21:33:24) Jenine: Ok, hope someone was logging I'm going to miss it all
(09/16 21:33:33) ghaelen: oh yeah
(09/16 21:33:42) ghaelen: I think we will have logs
(09/16 21:33:45) Dudemom_2000: lol put a sponsor at the bottom: "Brought to you by Kirel Baked Treats, the treat of the Cavern!"
(09/16 21:33:52) ghaelen: lololol
(09/16 21:33:53) Lady Chaos starts to laugh
(09/16 21:33:55) Kerryth roars with laughter
(09/16 21:33:56) Jane laughs
(09/16 21:33:57) ghaelen: oh that's wonderful!
(09/16 21:33:5Cool Veralun: lol
(09/16 21:33:5Cool Jenine: lol
(09/16 21:33:59) Thend: Jenine, in the end, just do what you thinks best. I talk a lot lol
(09/16 21:34:11) Thend: lol Dudemom
(09/16 21:34:15) Jenine: No! love suggestions
(09/16 21:34:22) ghaelen: perfect
(09/16 21:34:2Cool Dudemom_2000: well, a little levity you can change it periodically
(09/16 21:34:40) ghaelen: yes, start a story
(09/16 21:34:44) Dudemom_2000: I do have a great commercial for GlowPits (tm)
(09/16 21:34:4Cool Lady Chaos: And I jsut updated it again.
(09/16 21:34:53) ghaelen bursts out laughing
(09/16 21:34:56) Dudemom_2000: you know when you go to Descent and get that glow that never goes away
(09/16 21:35:05) ghaelen: oh wow
(09/16 21:35:15) Jane: my copy isn't showing the updates, LC
(09/16 21:35:15) ghaelen: absolutely we should do that
(09/16 21:35:24) Thend: Well, fun is an important vehicle around here along with huumor, everyone gravitates towards something if it has a sense of those
(09/16 21:35:24) Kerryth: Neither is mine.
(09/16 21:35:4Cool Dudemom_2000: well, Thend's had that bit of humor at the end....
(09/16 21:35:51) Lady Chaos: OK. Sent it to everyone.
(09/16 21:35:51) Thend: Jane, it may update upon relogging. Borky ol' KI's
(09/16 21:35:59) Jane: ah maybe so, Thend
(09/16 21:36:05) Kerryth: That's what I was thinking.
(09/16 21:36:09) Jane: but his earlier updates came into mine automatically
(09/16 21:36:1Cool Kerryth: Maybe the problem is new.
(09/16 21:39:24) Dudemom_2000: my KI is borked....Thend isnt really here...he is in Nexus....he is just a figment of a Kirel Treat!
(09/16 21:39:26) ghaelen: maybe you have to send it
(09/16 21:39:3Cool Kerryth: But it didn't update when it WAS the last one.
(09/16 21:39:40) Jane: hmm maybe so
(09/16 21:39:46) Thend snickers to himself
(09/16 21:39:54) Jane: lol LC, got the uru grin
(09/16 21:39:56) Dudemom_2000: I got it!
(09/16 21:39:5Cool Lady Chaos hands Thend a snickers bar
(09/16 21:40:04) Dudemom_2000: The Uru grin is it!
(09/16 21:40:0Cool ghaelen: are there other updates besides the grin?
(09/16 21:40:09) Jane: but not your previous updates?
(09/16 21:40:11) Jenine: This may be why we should have a master copy on the forum. Just in case....
(09/16 21:40:1Cool ghaelen: good idea
(09/16 21:40:19) Jane: good point, Jenine
(09/16 21:40:22) Kerryth: Oh, I got that one!
(09/16 21:40:3Cool Thend cannot eat and groan at the same time, so passes it on in the spirit of sharing that is the Cavern
(09/16 21:40:56) Dudemom_2000: could you put "information brought to you by the Guild Support Network?"
(09/16 21:41:3Cool Jane: eating is definitely more important than groaning
(09/16 21:41:56) Kerryth: Way more important.
(09/16 21:41:5Cool Dudemom_2000: yes
(09/16 21:41:5Cool ghaelen: anyone see the update?
(09/16 21:42:00) Jane: ah got that update
(09/16 21:42:00) Lady Chaos: I got the updated Uru Grin version...
(09/16 21:42:05) Veralun: now we come to the problem scrolling the message
(09/16 21:42:16) Dudemom_2000: I love it!!!!!
(09/16 21:42:1Cool Jane: got the network message, & the baked treats too Smile
(09/16 21:42:24) Kerryth: Excellent!
(09/16 21:42:25) Dudemom_2000: I got it all on one page
(09/16 21:42:27) Thend: 'brought' needs a 'g'
(09/16 21:42:31) Lady Chaos: And I got the newest.
(09/16 21:42:32) Jenine: lol yep got that one
(09/16 21:42:35) Jane: yes it's on one page for me too
(09/16 21:42:4Cool ghaelen: k, done
(09/16 21:42:50) Kerryth: I think your screen resolution makes a difference.
(09/16 21:42:56) Thend: Thanks LC
(09/16 21:42:5Cool Lady Chaos: And I corrected some spelling.
(09/16 21:43:16) Jenine: would screen res help finding the treats or are they all gone?
(09/16 21:43:32) Jane runs to get the 2nd plate of brownies
(09/16 21:43:33) Lady Chaos hands Jenine a bag of Kirel Baked Treats
(09/16 21:43:35) ghaelen: how can I tell if I have gotten the correct corrected version?
(09/16 21:43:3Cool Veralun: I think we need to avoid that in future, because a lot of ppl do not know how to scroll
(09/16 21:43:3Cool Kerryth: The treats are never gone.
Finished with more food!!! but you get the idea...
Thanks again everyone!
(09/16 20:17:20) Chat.log started...
(09/16 20:17:34) Jenine: But don't want to spam
(09/16 20:18:03) Dudemom_2000: You mean like was done with the KI Chain.....ask if someone wants it?
(09/16 20:18:0Cool Jenine: Not sure about how to handle this. Too many explorers with questions and just want to help
(09/16 20:18:15) Jenine: Yes
(09/16 20:18:45) Dudemom_2000: That worked very well and I think Thend put in to give it to at least two other people in the message
(09/16 20:18:4Cool ghaelen: so the question is how to do it?
(09/16 20:18:53) Thend nods his head
(09/16 20:18:57) Jenine: We have never had the chance to play such an important part- want to encourage excitement
(09/16 20:19:01) ghaelen: oh, that's a good idea
(09/16 20:19:0Cool Dudemom_2000: Yes
(09/16 20:19:25) Jenine: And even if they get wrong answers to keep asking
(09/16 20:19:29) Lady Chaos: I doubt that anyone would be offended by it.
(09/16 20:19:29) Thend nods his head
(09/16 20:19:35) ghaelen: Thend, do you usually ask people if they want it?
(09/16 20:19:36) Lady Chaos waves hello
(09/16 20:19:42) ghaelen: hi Tristen, welcome
(09/16 20:19:57) Dudemom_2000: Lol, I think by the end of the week people were asking him for it!
(09/16 20:20:03) ghaelen: aahhh
(09/16 20:20:05) Thend: ghaelen, there is no other way - Unless I am sharing with folks I know well that would be interested
(09/16 20:20:15) ghaelen: ok, so that answers one question
(09/16 20:20:19) Jenine: I saw and wondered what it was- made me curious Thend
(09/16 20:20:23) Thend: They were Dudemom, but most importantly, asking eachother too
(09/16 20:20:45) Dudemom_2000: Yes people were asking each other if they had a particular issue....if they didnt have it...
(09/16 20:20:45) ghaelen looks at the message from Thend for an example
(09/16 20:21:32) Lady Chaos: When we had the KI-mail announcement on D'mala, no one complained.
(09/16 20:21:41) Lady Chaos: We didn't ask before sending. We just sent it to everyone in the Age.
(09/16 20:22:02) Jane: I really can't imagine people minding--it's not like the DRC messages that you can't delete
(09/16 20:22:09) ghaelen: right, lol
(09/16 20:22:10) Lady Chaos: Right.
(09/16 20:22:23) Jenine: I don't know many explorers but have overheard conversations and wrong info given. Would like a way to show them there is more info
(09/16 20:22:35) ghaelen: Thend, ca you send me yours again? I forgot this avie doesn't have it
(09/16 20:22:4Cool Thend: Thing is, Live is larger, even more diverse, if one example is used, then folks may get spammed from everywhere, we have to be aware of the consequences
(09/16 20:22:4Cool Jane: me too, Thend?
(09/16 20:22:5Cool Thend: All 5?
(09/16 20:23:04) Dudemom_2000: well, how about this.....send it out to as many as you can that you think would be receptive and have them pass it on.....then build a subscription list on top of that. Like my group does...
(09/16 20:23:34) Dudemom_2000: i think the Relayer buddy list would probably love to get KI mail in addition.
(09/16 20:23:3Cool Jane: it might be true, we're setting an example--other people might spam sutff that fewer would want
(09/16 20:23:41) Jenine: But all we have in cavern to communicate is KI mail and chat- I'm not going to interupt an ongoing conversation to correct someone
(09/16 20:23:41) Thend: Subs mean more avvies. Dudemom, it empowers folks and gets them into the habit of sharing if it is not fully automatic
(09/16 20:23:43) ghaelen: Dudemom, how do you handle the subscription list?
(09/16 20:23:59) Dudemom_2000: with great difficulty! lol
(09/16 20:24:09) ghaelen: lol, with different avies?
(09/16 20:24:16) Dudemom_2000: we are heading for 250 -300 now....not sure how many the buddy list can carry
(09/16 20:24:23) ghaelen: oh my...
(09/16 20:24:31) Dudemom_2000: and yes, we get a lot of main and alternate avies
(09/16 20:24:39) Lady Chaos: Dudemom, is this the Relayers you're talkinga bout?
(09/16 20:24:43) Dudemom_2000: yup
(09/16 20:24:46) Thend: We need the Cavern to work together and learn to work together, we can't and shouldn't handle everything on our own, give everyone responsibility, even a little bit, and it grows
(09/16 20:25:0Cool ghaelen: yes, send the mail, and ask the recipient to pass it on
(09/16 20:25:15) ghaelen: some will, some won't
(09/16 20:25:20) Dudemom_2000: and the buddy list is transmitted to by one relayer so that one carries them all. I have another alternate buddy list avie that has the list.
(09/16 20:25:24) Lady Chaos waves hello
(09/16 20:25:25) ghaelen: but the more that do will feel like they participate
(09/16 20:25:29) Jenine: I am willing to do that but we need a network to encourage the guilds - all of them
(09/16 20:25:37) ghaelen: yes, all the guilds
(09/16 20:25:46) Dudemom_2000: yes, I think more will send it on than not....someone is more likely to accept it if it is coming from a friend, too.
(09/16 20:26:00) Tristen: yeah
(09/16 20:26:00) Jenine: We will al benifit from them it needs to be encouraged
(09/16 20:26:02) Thend: This is more than about how we can organize, it's about how everyone in the Cavern can
(09/16 20:26:02) Lady Chaos: Do you see this as being a kind of initial introduction to the Guilds, Jenine?
(09/16 20:26:22) Jenine: Yes- just to send them to the structures forming
(09/16 20:26:27) ghaelen: oh Thend, this is impressive
(09/16 20:26:3Cool Tristen: can you help me with it I don't even know where it is
(09/16 20:26:43) Jane: I agree with Thend about the organization
(09/16 20:26:46) Dudemom_2000: well, the information in the KI mail or KI Chain - whatever you want to call it can be information and weblinks to all of the other guilds...
(09/16 20:26:50) ghaelen: what are you lookin for Tristen?
(09/16 20:27:0Cool Thend: (Tristen, on each table is a bunch of shirts, they should be 'clickable')
(09/16 20:27:21) ghaelen goes to help Tristen for a second
(09/16 20:27:32) Dudemom_2000: lol
(09/16 20:27:35) Thend: Dudemom, that would be a good idea for Sharaya's 'Job Day'
(09/16 20:27:39) Dudemom_2000: make sure he reads about the guilds!
(09/16 20:27:45) Jenine: We are going to have to learn how to share this information and it was mentioned in cavern would help- can't just use forums
(09/16 20:27:49) Cojaar helps Smile
(09/16 20:27:53) ghaelen: oh, you got a shirt!
(09/16 20:28:03) Lady Chaos: I think it's better to do it in-cavern.
(09/16 20:28:04) Jane: agree we need to learn how to do stuff in Cavern
(09/16 20:28:05) ghaelen: hi
(09/16 20:28:06) Dudemom_2000: yes it would be an excellent thing to have in place for job day....everyone can have a small KI Mail prepared
(09/16 20:28:23) ghaelen: that's a good idea, Dudemom
(09/16 20:28:29) Jane: would be great if people could play without ever looking at forums unless they want to--for more depth
(09/16 20:28:31) Jenine: Think we may need it before job day although I'm all for that too!
(09/16 20:28:45) ghaelen: Tristen, Cojaar, the info sheets on the tables are informative, too
(09/16 20:28:51) Dudemom_2000: yes, but we have enough time to start it now and work out any "bugs" lol
(09/16 20:28:55) Cojaar: Yeah thx Smile
(09/16 20:28:57) Thend: Jeninre, the more In-Cavern the better. Folks pay to be in Live, not be in the forums. This place has to come alive, with discussions, events, etc, etc
(09/16 20:28:57) ghaelen: we're talking if you'd like to join us
(09/16 20:29:07) Jenine: Also asked Reteltee to petiton the DRC for a notebook of his knowlege
(09/16 20:29:40) ghaelen: can you explain that Jenine?
(09/16 20:29:45) ghaelen: his notebook?
(09/16 20:29:55) Dudemom_2000: I would love to see journal entries continued here in the cavern from the various DRC members too outside of episodes....
(09/16 20:29:55) Jenine: Thought having an explorer contributed notebook may be a good sign
(09/16 20:30:00) Tristen: Yeah
(09/16 20:30:11) Dudemom_2000: yes and one with Reteltee would be wonderful
(09/16 20:30:12) Lady Chaos: I'd like that too, DM.
(09/16 20:30:13) Thend: Btw, I'll be working with ireen on KI Chain for the next Busy Week, as well, and making versions to place on Imagers too, to further test-run everything
(09/16 20:30:20) Jenine: He agreed- hope he is not sick of my pestyness
(09/16 20:30:26) ghaelen: lol
(09/16 20:30:31) Dudemom_2000: lol
(09/16 20:30:31) ghaelen: me too, Jenine
(09/16 20:30:32) Tristen: Yeah
(09/16 20:30:41) Thend: I think Reteltee wants to assist anywhere he is able
(09/16 20:30:47) Dudemom_2000: yes.
(09/16 20:31:05) Cojaar: Ok
(09/16 20:31:33) ghaelen: ok, so the Ki-mail is about the guilds in general, and is designed to show support for all of them
(09/16 20:31:45) Lady Chaos: What do you imagine this being, Jenine? A one-page precis about each Guild?
(09/16 20:31:46) Jenine: Yep!
(09/16 20:31:54) Dudemom_2000: So would you be able to come up with a small template on a sample KI Mail that we can use to draft ours for Job Day?
(09/16 20:32:0Cool Jenine: I posted a temp paragragh on the forum but it needs work
(09/16 20:32:25) Jenine: Want it to stay very general but encouraging
(09/16 20:32:25) ghaelen: or maybe one page about a short history of them and what Dr. Watson said about them?
(09/16 20:32:29) Cojaar: lol
(09/16 20:32:29) Jane: bye Cojaar
(09/16 20:32:41) Cojaar: Heeeeeeeeeeelp
(09/16 20:32:46) Lady Chaos: Including Watson's statment would be good.
(09/16 20:32:46) Jenine: No history- leave that to Reteltee he's the expert
(09/16 20:32:56) ghaelen: ok, no history
(09/16 20:33:20) Lady Chaos: Shorah, Ruby.
(09/16 20:33:20) Jane: hi Ruby!
(09/16 20:33:22) Dudemom_2000: or how about an overview of the guilds and if Reteltee gets a notebook, then he can put stuff like what Watson said..
(09/16 20:33:25) Jane: we're in the auditorium
(09/16 20:33:27) From Ruby O'Degee in (null) Kirel: hi yall
(09/16 20:33:40) ghaelen: and general info
(09/16 20:33:45) Dudemom_2000: yes
(09/16 20:33:46) ghaelen: that sounds like a nice one pager
(09/16 20:33:4Cool Ruby O'Degee: oops hi y'all that is soutern for hi
(09/16 20:33:52) Ruby O'Degee: oops
(09/16 20:33:55) ghaelen: hi Ruby!
(09/16 20:34:00) Jane: lol
(09/16 20:34:00) Jenine: Yep must stay neutral and short
(09/16 20:34:00) Dudemom_2000: hi Ruby
(09/16 20:34:06) Dudemom_2000: yes
(09/16 20:34:07) Thend: Hello Ruby
(09/16 20:34:12) Ruby O'Degee: hi is there a party here?
(09/16 20:34:13) ghaelen: hi abrownie!
(09/16 20:34:20) Thend: Two very good points Jenine
(09/16 20:34:24) Lady Chaos: And put a reference to the summaries on the tables here.
(09/16 20:34:2Cool Jenine: Could we use the forums to iron out the bugs of the message
(09/16 20:34:2Cool Dudemom_2000: yes
(09/16 20:34:29) ghaelen: we're in the auditorium, Ruby
(09/16 20:34:33) Jane: it's a non-meeting meeting, Ruby Smile
(09/16 20:34:57) Lady Chaos starts to laugh
(09/16 20:34:5Cool Jenine: Then how will we give it out?
(09/16 20:35:16) ghaelen: I think you should start it, Jenine
(09/16 20:35:22) Lady Chaos: I'd say just mail it to everyone.
(09/16 20:35:25) abrownie1371 waves hello
(09/16 20:35:33) ghaelen: doesn't the originators name show up on them?
(09/16 20:35:36) ghaelen: let me look
(09/16 20:37:11) Lady Chaos: Hi, Cojaar.
(09/16 20:37:4Cool ghaelen: well, Jenine, I thought your initial paragraph was a nice start
(09/16 20:37:52) ghaelen: on the forum
(09/16 20:38:06) Lady Chaos makes a note to re-read that.
(09/16 20:38:07) Dudemom_2000: ooh let me go check it out...brb
(09/16 20:38:13) Jenine: Could all of you look it over and make suggestions
(09/16 20:38:27) Jenine: Then how will we share it?
(09/16 20:38:31) Jane: do you want us to go read it right now, Jenine?
(09/16 20:38:37) ghaelen: sure, suggest here or post suggestions?
(09/16 20:38:47) Lady Chaos: You write it up as KI mail, send it to everyone. Simple. <G>
(09/16 20:38:57) Thend nods his head
(09/16 20:39:05) Lady Chaos: Note that whenever someone changes it, everyone's will change.
(09/16 20:39:0Cool Jenine: Whenever you have time... Doesn't have to be now. I don't have it in a KI mail yet so can't share here
(09/16 20:39:17) ghaelen: ok
(09/16 20:39:21) Jane: that's a good point, LC
(09/16 20:39:29) Jane: I forget about that
(09/16 20:39:31) ghaelen: then we could meet briefly again to start it?
(09/16 20:39:43) Thend: Best ideas are succinct as possible. Better digestion of them
(09/16 20:39:44) Jenine: How will we share it?
(09/16 20:40:16) ghaelen: well, if each of us has it, we could just start by asking friends if they would like it
(09/16 20:40:19) Jenine: And let the guilds not get upset- we want to help them
(09/16 20:40:19) Jane: once you get suggestions from the forum, you could write up the first one & we could meet so you could give it to us?
(09/16 20:40:37) ghaelen nods in agreement with Jane
(09/16 20:40:49) Jenine: Got a thread on the MOUl forum about viral KI mail
(09/16 20:41:04) Jane: really?! yikes
(09/16 20:41:23) ghaelen: lol, I did wonder about the "viral" part
(09/16 20:41:27) abrownie1371 waves hello
(09/16 20:41:40) Zola: sorry
(09/16 20:41:43) Jenine: Didn't know what else to call it???
(09/16 20:41:46) ghaelen: hi Manida, Zola!
(09/16 20:41:51) Thend: Viral's an okay descriptive word, but may be misinterpreted
(09/16 20:41:53) ghaelen: lol
(09/16 20:41:57) Jane: oh I misunderstood
(09/16 20:41:59) Manida: hi Smile
(09/16 20:42:06) ghaelen feels a little silly for misinterpreting...
(09/16 20:42:0Cool Jane: I thought you meant someone really had done a virus
(09/16 20:42:22) Jenine: Sorry..
(09/16 20:42:26) Zola: I've been around since before URU
(09/16 20:42:2Cool ghaelen: we're talking about supporting the guilds, Manida, if you'd like to join us
(09/16 20:42:31) Jane is relieved that she isn't the only one who misunderstood
(09/16 20:42:35) Jenine: I can edit or start a new post...
(09/16 20:42:53) Manida: thx, but today i prefer to play a bit Wink
(09/16 20:43:00) Jenine: Just would like input before we go public
(09/16 20:43:15) Jenine: Make sure not to step on toes
(09/16 20:43:29) ghaelen: maybe just the title, and replace viral with....
(09/16 20:43:31) ghaelen: hmmm
(09/16 20:43:56) Jane: "informational"? lol
(09/16 20:44:04) ghaelen: lol
(09/16 20:44:09) ghaelen: yes, that would work
(09/16 20:44:2Cool Jane: a bit corporate, but at least not alarming
(09/16 20:44:39) ghaelen: lol
(09/16 20:44:47) Jenine: on the forum I mean
(09/16 20:44:50) ghaelen: general section?
(09/16 20:44:56) Lady Chaos: There's a quick verison of what Jenine wrote.
(09/16 20:44:5Cool ghaelen: general discussion section?
(09/16 20:45:11) Jane: in the forums? I didn't look there this morning yet
(09/16 20:45:11) Dudemom_2000: yes, they have seemed calmer here recently.
(09/16 20:45:16) Lady Chaos: It's in the Guilds subforum. I jsut typed it up and sent it to you all.
(09/16 20:45:22) Thend: I stay away from forums unless absolutley necessary lol
(09/16 20:45:27) Jane: thanks LC!
(09/16 20:45:30) Thend: Thank you LC
(09/16 20:45:33) Lady Chaos: TY
(09/16 20:45:36) Jane: I'm with you, Thend Smile
(09/16 20:45:40) Veralun: gracias
(09/16 20:45:47) Lady Chaos: That's not intended to be final. Just a test sample.
(09/16 20:45:5Cool ghaelen: I'm trying to...
(09/16 20:45:5Cool Lady Chaos: Basically, copied from what Jenine wrote.
(09/16 20:46:05) Jenine: I am a little cool with my writing maybe you could warm it up a bit- friendlier
(09/16 20:46:07) Dudemom_2000: very nice. I like it.
(09/16 20:46:15) ghaelen: no, Jenine, I like it
(09/16 20:46:24) Jane: yes I like it too
(09/16 20:46:33) ghaelen: it's quite friendly
(09/16 20:46:43) Veralun: good one
(09/16 20:46:4Cool Lady Chaos: Note that I did some editing and amending on the fly.
(09/16 20:47:0Cool Jenine: LC thank you
(09/16 20:47:17) Lady Chaos: You're welcome.
(09/16 20:47:52) Thend: Looks good LC. Needs an 'e' in 'interested' in last sentence, but otherwise fine Wink
(09/16 20:47:56) Lady Chaos: It could probably be made more direct, and clear.
(09/16 20:48:05) Lady Chaos: Well, yes... I was typing as fast as I could go. <G>
(09/16 20:48:06) Jane: picky point . . . when it says "You reach them by selecting a shirt" the "them" seems to refer to "Guild Tables" rather than the pubs
(09/16 20:48:14) ghaelen: lol
(09/16 20:48:23) Thend is a good proofreader, but ironically typos all the time himself lol
(09/16 20:48:29) ghaelen: and don't forget the Kirel Baked Treats on those tables
(09/16 20:48:37) Jane: same here, Thend
(09/16 20:48:40) ghaelen is kidding...
(09/16 20:48:41) Dudemom_2000: that is a good introduction.
(09/16 20:48:59) Thend nods his head
(09/16 20:49:02) Jenine: Treats? Where
(09/16 20:49:07) ghaelen: lol
(09/16 20:49:09) Veralun: true Ghaelen we need them too
(09/16 20:49:15) Thend: Jenine, focus...
(09/16 20:49:17) Dudemom_2000: and then those interested in the various guilds could have KI mails that would add information....
(09/16 20:49:22) Jenine: I'f only we could bribe with food
(09/16 20:49:29) ghaelen: lol
(09/16 20:49:29) Lady Chaos: I made the corrections.
(09/16 20:49:44) Dudemom_2000: I mean those already participating and have knowledge....
(09/16 20:49:4Cool Ruby O'Degee: oh dear
(09/16 20:49:56) Jane: uh . . . did you get the extra "i" in "beiginning" LC?
(09/16 20:50:01) ghaelen: so there would be more KImails if they want more info?
(09/16 20:50:13) ghaelen: DRC approved.....
(09/16 20:50:30) Jenine: Guilds can deal with their own KI mails- maybe this will give them the idea
(09/16 20:50:31) Lady Chaos: OK. Fixed that one.
(09/16 20:50:41) ghaelen: true, Jenine
(09/16 20:50:45) Lady Chaos: Good idea, Jenine.
(09/16 20:51:46) Ruby O'Degee ruby sits quietly very concerned and develops a twitch
(09/16 20:51:5Cool Jane: better make a big pot, lol
(09/16 20:52:00) Thend wonders what he walked into
(09/16 20:52:05) Lady Chaos: Instead of twitching, tell us what concerns you, Ruby!
(09/16 20:52:06) Jane: lol @ Ruby
(09/16 20:52:11) Dudemom_2000 pokes Thend with an apricot
(09/16 20:52:15) Jenine: Sorry- so how will we share?
(09/16 20:52:23) Ruby O'Degee: no , I have no concerns
(09/16 20:52:31) Ruby O'Degee: itg was about the baked treats
(09/16 20:52:56) ghaelen: so, yes, Jenine, how will we share the KI mails?
(09/16 20:53:0Cool Thend starts to laugh
(09/16 20:53:0Cool Jane: sorry, Jenine we seem to have gotten a bit off topic . . .
(09/16 20:54:49) ghaelen: er.... the KI mail?
(09/16 20:54:56) Dudemom_2000: oh, yes back to the KI Mail
(09/16 20:55:09) Jane: KI mail? lol oops
(09/16 20:55:11) ghaelen: zola did you pick any other shirts first?
(09/16 20:55:20) ghaelen: what is KI mail?
(09/16 20:55:31) ghaelen: Hi ashanti, eillan!
(09/16 20:55:33) Jane: but it should substitute the maintainer's shirt anyway should nt it?
(09/16 20:55:33) ghaelen: welcome
(09/16 20:55:40) eillan: hi
(09/16 20:55:41) ashanti: shorah
(09/16 20:55:42) Jane: even if he did pick another first
(09/16 20:55:42) Zola: I know I had mine but I picked up the explorers kit
(09/16 20:55:43) eillan: what'
(09/16 20:55:46) eillan: s going on?
(09/16 20:55:50) Lady Chaos: Yes. It should give you the shirt you click on most recently.
(09/16 20:55:56) Jane: shorah eillan
(09/16 20:55:57) Zola: and my shirt disapeared
(09/16 20:56:00) ghaelen: well, I found after three shirts, it froze me
(09/16 20:56:0Cool Dudemom_2000: it is in your closet, Zola
(09/16 20:56:0Cool Jane: ah
(09/16 20:56:09) ghaelen: oh nooo
(09/16 20:56:10) Jane: shirt bug
(09/16 20:56:17) Thend: eillan, discussing food and shirts and Guilds
(09/16 20:56:20) Lady Chaos has no bugs on her shirt!
(09/16 20:56:22) ghaelen: we are talking about supporting the guilds, eillan
(09/16 20:56:27) eillan: ah
(09/16 20:56:29) Jane: maybe it crawled inside, LC
(09/16 20:56:32) Jenine: Shirt bugs? don't make me itchy
(09/16 20:56:35) ghaelen: about drafting a KI mail to pass on
(09/16 20:56:3Cool ghaelen: general information
(09/16 20:56:42) Lady Chaos: EeEEEKK
(09/16 20:56:46) Jane: LOL
(09/16 20:56:52) eillan: cheers
(09/16 20:56:52) Lady Chaos scratches furiously
(09/16 20:56:55) ghaelen: now Lady Chaos
(09/16 20:56:59) ghaelen: lol
(09/16 20:57:0Cool Lady Chaos: "Out, darned bug!"
(09/16 20:58:34) Thend: Jenine, how does this proposed KI mail differ from just telling someone interested to check out Kirel and the Guild info there?
(09/16 20:58:40) Zola: OK that worked thanks
(09/16 20:58:49) Jane cheers
(09/16 20:59:11) Lady Chaos: Thend, as I see it, this is more direct.
(09/16 20:59:11) ghaelen: so earlier is better
(09/16 20:59:19) Lady Chaos: It's easy to miss the Kirel thing.
(09/16 20:59:24) Jenine: I'm shy thought it would be a way to share... To afraid to interupt a conversation. Plus a reminder
(09/16 20:59:24) ghaelen: and Thend, I don't have to type it over and over
(09/16 20:59:2Cool Jane: the more info the better
(09/16 20:59:40) ghaelen: and it gets other people involved
(09/16 20:59:51) Jane: communication flowing
(09/16 20:59:59) Jane: people talking to each other
(09/16 21:00:12) ghaelen: hi narrymanic
(09/16 21:00:22) Zola: do you mine of I join
(09/16 21:00:25) Zola: in
(09/16 21:00:27) Thend: One would have to interrupt to ask if someone wanted the KImail, then there's the scrolling to send it to them, etc, but I see your point
(09/16 21:00:30) Dudemom_2000: come on in Zola
(09/16 21:00:30) Jane: come on in, Zola
(09/16 21:00:31) ghaelen: oh please do!
(09/16 21:00:4Cool ghaelen: great to have you
(09/16 21:00:54) Jenine: Hi
(09/16 21:01:00) Zola: thanks
(09/16 21:01:01) Lady Chaos: We're talkinga bout how to support Guild formation.
(09/16 21:01:12) Zola: cool
(09/16 21:01:14) ghaelen: and just support the guilds in general
(09/16 21:01:21) Jane: & foster communication in general
(09/16 21:01:24) Lady Chaos: I just sent you a sample KI mail/
(09/16 21:01:2Cool ghaelen: and talk
(09/16 21:01:34) ghaelen: and drink coffee and wine
(09/16 21:01:3Cool Jane: yes!!!
(09/16 21:01:3Cool Dudemom_2000: lol
(09/16 21:02:1Cool Jenine: Thend- is there another way? better?
(09/16 21:04:03) Thend: Jenine, just considering. Want to find the simplest way for communication, and fosatering it, and every different idea has its own answers to that. If word-of-mouth can't be done with this idea, or it would be too complicated, then yes, the step up to a KImail is probably sensible
(09/16 21:04:20) Dudemom_2000 nods her head
(09/16 21:04:2Cool Lady Chaos: Word of mouth works even better, but this needs more than the usual one line.
(09/16 21:04:30) ghaelen: ok, so we do our thing while we are in the cavern, and if the subject of guilds comes up, we can ask if anyone would like general information?
(09/16 21:04:33) Jane: well we could do both, Thend--talk to people when we have time or they want to
(09/16 21:04:37) Jenine: Thought we could counter the DRC with our own messages- show we have some power
(09/16 21:04:42) Jane: & send KI mails when that seems to work better
(09/16 21:04:49) Jenine: Work with what we have
(09/16 21:04:51) Ruby O'Degee: I like that
(09/16 21:04:55) ghaelen: oooohhh, now I see Jenine's plan...
(09/16 21:04:56) Lady Chaos: Right. KI-mail for when more detail is desired.
(09/16 21:05:11) Jane: I like the idea of countering the DRC!
(09/16 21:05:21) Jane: grass roots movement Smile
(09/16 21:05:23) Lady Chaos: Yes... Jenine is secretly plotting the overthrow of the DRC!
(09/16 21:05:23) Ruby O'Degee: me too Jane, just a little here and there
(09/16 21:05:25) ghaelen: shorah, Aura!
(09/16 21:05:30) Jenine: They are not the only ones that can issue messages
(09/16 21:05:33) ghaelen: we are in the auditorium
(09/16 21:05:35) Aura: Shorah everyone
(09/16 21:05:3Cool Thend can't help but like that particualr aspect either >Smile
(09/16 21:05:39) Jane: hi Aura
(09/16 21:05:42) Zola: I think there is a problem with w O M
(09/16 21:05:43) Lady Chaos: Shorah, Aura.
(09/16 21:05:54) ghaelen: to bad we can't send the DRC non-deleteable messages
(09/16 21:05:59) Jenine: lol
(09/16 21:06:00) Zola: If you are out for a couple of days you might
(09/16 21:06:00) Jane: LOLOL
(09/16 21:06:03) Lady Chaos: Zola, I don't udnerstand.
(09/16 21:06:06) Jane: I like that idea, ghaelen
(09/16 21:06:0Cool Zola: miss something but
(09/16 21:06:09) Jane: we'd show 'em!
(09/16 21:06:13) Veralun: maybe if we are nice to the DRC
(09/16 21:06:1Cool Zola: if it's on K mail
(09/16 21:06:27) Jenine: That' s the spirit I was looking for!!!
(09/16 21:06:33) Zola: then it s there waiting for you
(09/16 21:06:34) ghaelen: oh yes, a person could look again, Zola?
(09/16 21:06:39) Thend: Best of luck with that Veralun lol
(09/16 21:06:40) Lady Chaos: Good point, Zola.
(09/16 21:06:41) Zola: when you get bakc
(09/16 21:06:43) Veralun: because I see possibilities why this cannot be done with the cooperation from the DRC
(09/16 21:06:43) Jane: that's true, Zola
(09/16 21:07:01) ghaelen: Veralun they won't cooperate?
(09/16 21:07:04) Lady Chaos: I'd be nice to the DRC... if I ever saw them.
(09/16 21:07:10) ghaelen: or we should cooperate with them?
(09/16 21:07:12) Jenine: We can share our messages without the DRC
(09/16 21:07:14) Zola: AH yes the DRC
(09/16 21:07:14) Jane: lol LC
(09/16 21:07:20) Lady Chaos: I've invited them to parties. What more can I do?
(09/16 21:07:27) Jenine: We do all the time on the forums- we need in cavern
(09/16 21:07:41) Thend: Same here LC - nuthin' lol
(09/16 21:08:01) Lady Chaos: They didn't even come to the Day of Dancing.
(09/16 21:08:02) Jenine: I'll come to parties.... don't dance thought
(09/16 21:08:03) Thend: Okay Jenine, those are very good points
(09/16 21:08:10) Zola: what we need is group mailing lists
(09/16 21:08:19) Jane: I've never met any of them--I'm hardly ever on at the same time
(09/16 21:08:22) Veralun: true they do not like dancing I suppose
(09/16 21:08:31) Dudemom_2000: Nick does, lol
(09/16 21:08:33) Jane: you don't have to dance, Jenine
(09/16 21:08:3Cool ghaelen: awwww, I thought Laxman danced up a storm once
(09/16 21:08:46) Jane: just hang out & have fun Smile
(09/16 21:08:4Cool Veralun: wow
(09/16 21:08:49) Lady Chaos: Zola, you can sort of use your Buddies list as a mailing list, but yes. It could be better.
(09/16 21:08:50) ghaelen: maybe that was someone else
(09/16 21:09:00) Dudemom_2000: lol
(09/16 21:09:23) Zola: I can send one message to all my buddys?
(09/16 21:09:26) Thend: Zola, I was saying earlier, encouraging explorers to share is an important point, and a good habit to promote. More anonyous mailings may not best assist that. Though, like I said, every message/project has it's own way of best getting done
(09/16 21:09:36) ghaelen: oh wouldn't that be great, Zola?
(09/16 21:09:3Cool Veralun likes to dance with Cate and step on purpose on her foot
(09/16 21:09:47) ghaelen: lolol
(09/16 21:09:54) ghaelen: did you actually dance with her?
(09/16 21:09:56) ghaelen: wow
(09/16 21:10:02) Lady Chaos: Right now we can't do that, Zola. I meant that you can use your Buddies list as a reminder of who to send things to.
(09/16 21:10:13) Jane: but Thend, if we're passing on messages to people we know, it's not so anonymous
(09/16 21:10:20) Zola: AH yes
(09/16 21:10:27) ghaelen: well, I still think that the more personal approach makes new people feel more welcome
(09/16 21:10:30) Thend: Jane, who said only people we know?
(09/16 21:10:36) ghaelen: and not so much like newbies (and dumb)
(09/16 21:10:45) Jenine: What if I want to send it to someone I don't know- just run into
(09/16 21:10:53) Jane: well I wouldn't send them to strangers unless they asked or said OK
(09/16 21:10:57) Dudemom_2000: I prefer to send the message to either people I know, who I know will want it and pass it on, or people I meet that express an interest in it once I tell them....
(09/16 21:10:5Cool Lady Chaos: Or at least lets them know that we were all newbies at one time.
(09/16 21:10:59) ghaelen: you can always aks about that
(09/16 21:11:01) Thend: We gotta do that, PLUS reach out, and encourage everyone to do the same, no one slips through the cracks on my watch if I can help it Wink
(09/16 21:11:09) ghaelen: yes, DM, networking
(09/16 21:11:13) Veralun: once the KI posting is started to ppl we know they will pass it to others
(09/16 21:11:17) Jane: you are good at that, Thend Smile
(09/16 21:11:19) ghaelen: yeah
(09/16 21:11:21) Veralun: ppl will speak about it
(09/16 21:11:22) Jenine thanks Thend
(09/16 21:11:2Cool Dudemom_2000: yes, that's the word, ghaelen! Networking
(09/16 21:11:31) ghaelen: yes they will
(09/16 21:11:43) Dudemom_2000: and they will pass it to their friends, etc.
(09/16 21:11:44) ghaelen: they will talk to people I will never meet
(09/16 21:11:49) Veralun: right
(09/16 21:11:54) ghaelen: but the message will keep going
(09/16 21:11:56) Lady Chaos: Yes. That's why it's called "viral."
(09/16 21:12:00) Dudemom_2000: six degrees of separation!
(09/16 21:12:13) Lady Chaos: Shorah, Kerryth!
(09/16 21:12:14) Thend: The Cavern needs a change in perception of how we do things we already do here. We have a wonderful foundation of folks
(09/16 21:12:15) ghaelen: so maybe replace "viral" with "networking?
(09/16 21:12:17) ghaelen: lol
(09/16 21:12:20) Jenine: It seems to be our only available tool
(09/16 21:12:23) Dudemom_2000: hi Kerryth
(09/16 21:12:24) ghaelen: well hi, Kerryth!
(09/16 21:12:2Cool Jane: also, if I have a purpose to be online & talking to people, I will probably be more social & talkative too
(09/16 21:12:32) Kerryth: Shorah!
(09/16 21:12:32) Thend: Hello Kerryth
(09/16 21:12:34) ghaelen: nice to see you
(09/16 21:12:34) Jane: hi Kerryth!
(09/16 21:12:3Cool Dudemom_2000: yes networking sound better
(09/16 21:12:41) Thend nods his head
(09/16 21:12:42) Veralun: You can use the forum and the imagers to attent the ppl on the KI mail
(09/16 21:12:43) Lady Chaos thinks Jane has a big problem with being social
(09/16 21:12:46) Lady Chaos starts to laugh
(09/16 21:12:4Cool Thend: Networking is sooo important
(09/16 21:12:52) Jenine: Networking is much better TY
(09/16 21:12:54) Jane: lol LC
(09/16 21:12:5Cool Thend lol's at LC
(09/16 21:13:01) ghaelen: yes it is Thend
(09/16 21:13:0Cool Dudemom_2000: So that is what I am doing when I am Bevin hopping?
(09/16 21:13:09) Lady Chaos: People appreciate networking that isn't the precursor to control.
(09/16 21:13:20) ghaelen: and it is important for socializing, too
(09/16 21:13:27) ghaelen: and for meeting people of like mind
(09/16 21:13:39) Kerryth: And getting past one's own shyness.
(09/16 21:13:42) Dudemom_2000: yes
(09/16 21:13:44) ghaelen: each of us will go out into our various circles, and talk about this
(09/16 21:13:45) Jane nods her head
(09/16 21:13:47) Jenine: Although viral got some of you here Smile
(09/16 21:13:52) ghaelen: lolol
(09/16 21:13:52) Dudemom_2000: lol
(09/16 21:13:52) Lady Chaos starts to laugh
(09/16 21:13:55) Jane: lol
(09/16 21:13:59) ghaelen: ah ha ha ha
(09/16 21:14:03) ghaelen: that was good, Jenine
(09/16 21:14:06) Dudemom_2000 sneezes
(09/16 21:14:07) Jane: LC & ghaelen got me here Smile
(09/16 21:14:14) Jane: I missed the thread
(09/16 21:14:16) Lady Chaos: Yep. Twisted her arm...
(09/16 21:14:19) Jenine: Their great!
(09/16 21:14:22) Kerryth: I just this second found it on the forum. Smile
(09/16 21:14:22) Jane: forced me! hahaha
(09/16 21:14:33) ghaelen: glad you did, Kerryth!
(09/16 21:14:36) Dudemom_2000: well, I saw the thread and decided to come. THIS is the type of meeting I envisioned
(09/16 21:14:42) Thend: I just fall into things like this, I don't know how I get anywhere lol
(09/16 21:14:43) ghaelen: well, I saw the value in the idea
(09/16 21:15:01) ghaelen: and these old boots can move when they need to
(09/16 21:15:0Cool Jenine: Me too- Positive and productive- no needing control
(09/16 21:15:0Cool ghaelen: lol@Thend
(09/16 21:15:0Cool Lady Chaos: Well, um, Thend, I know this will embarrass you, but it could very well have something to do with the fact that you're a nice guy.
(09/16 21:15:09) Jane: you do seem to have your finger on the pulse of Uru, Thend Smile
(09/16 21:15:12) Thend: But good point Jenine, and I agree with ghaelen
(09/16 21:15:21) Dudemom_2000: I would like to see more impromptu meetings like this and I would like to see others interested in the other guilds come
(09/16 21:15:23) Ruby O'Degee: and I just wanted to listen to any valid reasonable idea
(09/16 21:15:27) Thend flinches
(09/16 21:15:34) Dudemom_2000: Thend is Uber!
(09/16 21:15:36) Jenine: Call me anytime
(09/16 21:15:43) Lady Chaos: Ok, Anytime.
(09/16 21:15:4Cool Jane groans
(09/16 21:15:52) Thend: Thank you Jenine Smile
(09/16 21:15:56) ghaelen: sure, got an idea? get together and see what happens
(09/16 21:15:5Cool Ruby O'Degee groans too
(09/16 21:16:00) Dudemom_2000: thanks, Jenine...great idea
(09/16 21:16:04) Jenine: If we show we care about the future it will come...
(09/16 21:16:05) Dudemom_2000: yes.
(09/16 21:16:13) Kerryth: true
(09/16 21:16:24) Jane: & we will have a hand in it
(09/16 21:16:2Cool ghaelen: it's amazing how much gets done when there is no agenda... or maybe only one agenda, like food
(09/16 21:16:30) Lady Chaos: Well, the future comes whether you want it or not. Caring is more likely to make it a good fugture.
(09/16 21:16:32) Dudemom_2000: yes
(09/16 21:16:33) Thend: She groans, They groan.. and Thend groans, as well
(09/16 21:17:03) Jane: thank you, Jenine
(09/16 21:17:05) ghaelen: thank you, Jenine! this was really a good idea
(09/16 21:17:07) Jane: ooooooooh
(09/16 21:17:10) Lady Chaos: What? They don't blow up in your face!
(09/16 21:17:13) Jenine: Now anyone want to show me how to "share" a KI mail!!!
(09/16 21:24:59) ghaelen: ok, so we discuss the paragraph on the forum, and once that is set, Jenine types it up and we all come to get it?
(09/16 21:25:03) Lady Chaos: You're welcome... but it's basically what Jenine wrote.
(09/16 21:25:04) Jenine: Could we still post a final draft on the forum to let anyone share?
(09/16 21:25:07) Dudemom_2000: sure
(09/16 21:25:17) ghaelen: oh, we type one up ourselves?
(09/16 21:25:25) ghaelen: from the forum paragraph?
(09/16 21:25:34) Jenine: Yep
(09/16 21:25:36) Kerryth: I don't think you can paste text into the KI. Or can you?
(09/16 21:25:39) Lady Chaos: Depends on how unified an approach you want.
(09/16 21:25:40) Thend: Info should have no restrictions, as long as it's passed along accurately
(09/16 21:25:42) Lady Chaos: No pasting.
(09/16 21:25:44) ghaelen: ok
(09/16 21:25:49) ghaelen: sounds good
(09/16 21:25:49) Jane: I don't think so, either, Kerryth
(09/16 21:25:50) Dudemom_2000: nope dont think you can, Kerryth
(09/16 21:25:52) Jane: have to retype
(09/16 21:25:59) Kerryth: Well, sometimes it would be handy...
(09/16 21:26:00) ghaelen: hi Rihm!
(09/16 21:26:1Cool ghaelen: a lot of things would be handy with these KI communicators
(09/16 21:26:2Cool Lady Chaos: Yes... such as reliability.
(09/16 21:26:36) Thend: Sure would Kerryth, but like the original D'ni that came to the Cavern, we need to live humbly here lol
(09/16 21:26:3Cool ghaelen starts to laugh
(09/16 21:26:45) Kerryth: Indeed.
(09/16 21:26:52) Jenine: Had a version of KIpod- but never heard if it was considered... Smile
(09/16 21:26:59) Kerryth: And type quickly.
(09/16 21:27:03) Lady Chaos: I mean... relinking to an Age two or three times just to show up on everyone's lists is a bit uch.
(09/16 21:27:07) ghaelen: yeah, that was funny, the KIpod
(09/16 21:27:13) Veralun: lol
(09/16 21:27:15) Kerryth laughs
(09/16 21:27:1Cool Dudemom_2000: I submitted a feature to have a couple more buddy lists so you could specialize
(09/16 21:27:19) Zola: well noe that I've had my fill and gained 20 LB I have to run. Thaqnks for letting me sit in.
(09/16 21:27:20) ghaelen: huh, people are on my list today
(09/16 21:27:23) Thend: Jenine, do you think you will be doing more of these sorta KImails then?
(09/16 21:27:25) ghaelen: lolol
(09/16 21:27:2Cool Thend: Seeya Zola
(09/16 21:27:31) Lady Chaos waves goodbye
(09/16 21:27:31) Jane: ooh a KIpod is a good idea!
(09/16 21:27:33) ghaelen: great to see you Zola!
(09/16 21:27:35) Zola: What Forum are we talking about?
(09/16 21:27:37) Lady Chaos: Bye, Zola...
(09/16 21:27:3Cool Kerryth waves goodbye
(09/16 21:27:39) Dudemom_2000: bye Zola
(09/16 21:27:39) Jane: bye Zola
(09/16 21:27:42) ghaelen: the MOUL forum
(09/16 21:27:44) Lady Chaos: The Uru Live.
(09/16 21:27:45) Veralun: CU Zola
(09/16 21:27:55) Zola: thanks
(09/16 21:27:55) ghaelen: probably in the guild section, right, Jenine?
(09/16 21:27:57) Dudemom_2000: www.mystonline.com
(09/16 21:28:02) Lady Chaos: Guilds, yes.
(09/16 21:28:05) Jenine: If we need them- think we should. I'll bug Reteltee and see what he thinks...
(09/16 21:28:1Cool ghaelen giggles at bugging reteltee
(09/16 21:28:21) Lady Chaos: If we need what?
(09/16 21:28:24) ghaelen: yes, you should do that
(09/16 21:28:24) Jenine: Really want the guilds to realize they can do this too
(09/16 21:28:25) ghaelen: lol
(09/16 21:28:43) Dudemom_2000: yes. lead by example!
(09/16 21:28:47) Jane cheers
(09/16 21:28:47) Thend: Okay Jenine, then consider a name for your missives, for identification from other KImails out there, name-recognition
(09/16 21:29:01) Lady Chaos: Exactly. The Modus Operandi of the Rooftop Volunteer Group!
(09/16 21:29:01) Dudemom_2000: not KI Mail
(09/16 21:29:03) ghaelen: the title, you mean?
(09/16 21:29:06) Dudemom_2000: lol
(09/16 21:29:07) Dudemom_2000: yes
(09/16 21:29:12) ghaelen: huh?
(09/16 21:29:12) Jenine: I sent him a resume a month ago- told me I was hired but what was I to do for his cause
(09/16 21:29:19) Dudemom_2000: I like Thend's
(09/16 21:29:19) ghaelen starts to laugh
(09/16 21:29:24) Thend: Possibly anyway. Unless you want them to look as DRCish as possible, which is also a great idea
(09/16 21:29:3Cool ghaelen: make them look guild-ish
(09/16 21:29:40) Thend: LOL Jenine. That Reteltee
(09/16 21:29:52) Veralun: If this works we can make a workthrough for this on the forum and I can sticky that topic
(09/16 21:30:05) Jenine: Made me come up with my own tasks - smart man
(09/16 21:30:07) Lady Chaos: That would be good.
(09/16 21:30:0Cool ghaelen: oh, I like "sticky"
(09/16 21:30:16) Lady Chaos hands Gh aelen som eglue
(09/16 21:30:17) Veralun: because this is valuable info
(09/16 21:30:25) ghaelen: Sticky Guild KI Mail
(09/16 21:30:30) ghaelen: no, no, no
(09/16 21:30:33) Dudemom_2000: nope
(09/16 21:30:35) Jane: lolol
(09/16 21:30:59) Dudemom_2000: something catch....like the KI Chain was
(09/16 21:31:01) ghaelen: maybe just Support our Local Guild?
(09/16 21:31:03) Lady Chaos: That's what Eskimo use to hold their houses together. Igloo.
(09/16 21:31:04) ghaelen: your
(09/16 21:31:06) Jenine: Must contain the word support! stays generic
(09/16 21:31:0Cool ghaelen: no, no, no
(09/16 21:31:16) Jane groans again at LC
(09/16 21:31:25) ghaelen: lol
(09/16 21:31:2Cool Jenine: Guild Support Network KI Mail
(09/16 21:31:29) Veralun: remember when you want you post stickied and edit later that you have to make 2 posts and use the second one for editing
(09/16 21:31:3Cool ghaelen: oh, that's nice, Jenine
(09/16 21:31:43) Jane thinks secretly that that was a pretty good one, but doesn't want to encourage LC, lol
(09/16 21:31:51) Dudemom_2000: the GSN
(09/16 21:31:56) ghaelen: GSN
(09/16 21:31:59) Lady Chaos feels encouraged anyway... as she's incorigible
(09/16 21:32:01) ghaelen: huh, nice
(09/16 21:32:05) Jenine: love to play with words
(09/16 21:32:17) Kerryth: That's really good.
(09/16 21:32:21) ghaelen: so make two posts, Jenine
(09/16 21:32:2Cool ghaelen: right?
(09/16 21:32:30) Jane: yes she is Smile (@ LC)
(09/16 21:32:35) Thend: jenine, that could go along the bottom of the KImail, and the info about passing to 2 interested people (if you wanna use that) should be in there somewhere as well
(09/16 21:33:00) Veralun: yes
(09/16 21:33:06) Thend: The name could go*
(09/16 21:33:23) Lady Chaos: I just updated the KI mail with the GSN info. <G>
(09/16 21:33:24) Jenine: Ok, hope someone was logging I'm going to miss it all
(09/16 21:33:33) ghaelen: oh yeah
(09/16 21:33:42) ghaelen: I think we will have logs
(09/16 21:33:45) Dudemom_2000: lol put a sponsor at the bottom: "Brought to you by Kirel Baked Treats, the treat of the Cavern!"
(09/16 21:33:52) ghaelen: lololol
(09/16 21:33:53) Lady Chaos starts to laugh
(09/16 21:33:55) Kerryth roars with laughter
(09/16 21:33:56) Jane laughs
(09/16 21:33:57) ghaelen: oh that's wonderful!
(09/16 21:33:5Cool Veralun: lol
(09/16 21:33:5Cool Jenine: lol
(09/16 21:33:59) Thend: Jenine, in the end, just do what you thinks best. I talk a lot lol
(09/16 21:34:11) Thend: lol Dudemom
(09/16 21:34:15) Jenine: No! love suggestions
(09/16 21:34:22) ghaelen: perfect
(09/16 21:34:2Cool Dudemom_2000: well, a little levity you can change it periodically
(09/16 21:34:40) ghaelen: yes, start a story
(09/16 21:34:44) Dudemom_2000: I do have a great commercial for GlowPits (tm)
(09/16 21:34:4Cool Lady Chaos: And I jsut updated it again.
(09/16 21:34:53) ghaelen bursts out laughing
(09/16 21:34:56) Dudemom_2000: you know when you go to Descent and get that glow that never goes away
(09/16 21:35:05) ghaelen: oh wow
(09/16 21:35:15) Jane: my copy isn't showing the updates, LC
(09/16 21:35:15) ghaelen: absolutely we should do that
(09/16 21:35:24) Thend: Well, fun is an important vehicle around here along with huumor, everyone gravitates towards something if it has a sense of those
(09/16 21:35:24) Kerryth: Neither is mine.
(09/16 21:35:4Cool Dudemom_2000: well, Thend's had that bit of humor at the end....
(09/16 21:35:51) Lady Chaos: OK. Sent it to everyone.
(09/16 21:35:51) Thend: Jane, it may update upon relogging. Borky ol' KI's
(09/16 21:35:59) Jane: ah maybe so, Thend
(09/16 21:36:05) Kerryth: That's what I was thinking.
(09/16 21:36:09) Jane: but his earlier updates came into mine automatically
(09/16 21:36:1Cool Kerryth: Maybe the problem is new.
(09/16 21:39:24) Dudemom_2000: my KI is borked....Thend isnt really here...he is in Nexus....he is just a figment of a Kirel Treat!
(09/16 21:39:26) ghaelen: maybe you have to send it
(09/16 21:39:3Cool Kerryth: But it didn't update when it WAS the last one.
(09/16 21:39:40) Jane: hmm maybe so
(09/16 21:39:46) Thend snickers to himself
(09/16 21:39:54) Jane: lol LC, got the uru grin
(09/16 21:39:56) Dudemom_2000: I got it!
(09/16 21:39:5Cool Lady Chaos hands Thend a snickers bar
(09/16 21:40:04) Dudemom_2000: The Uru grin is it!
(09/16 21:40:0Cool ghaelen: are there other updates besides the grin?
(09/16 21:40:09) Jane: but not your previous updates?
(09/16 21:40:11) Jenine: This may be why we should have a master copy on the forum. Just in case....
(09/16 21:40:1Cool ghaelen: good idea
(09/16 21:40:19) Jane: good point, Jenine
(09/16 21:40:22) Kerryth: Oh, I got that one!
(09/16 21:40:3Cool Thend cannot eat and groan at the same time, so passes it on in the spirit of sharing that is the Cavern
(09/16 21:40:56) Dudemom_2000: could you put "information brought to you by the Guild Support Network?"
(09/16 21:41:3Cool Jane: eating is definitely more important than groaning
(09/16 21:41:56) Kerryth: Way more important.
(09/16 21:41:5Cool Dudemom_2000: yes
(09/16 21:41:5Cool ghaelen: anyone see the update?
(09/16 21:42:00) Jane: ah got that update
(09/16 21:42:00) Lady Chaos: I got the updated Uru Grin version...
(09/16 21:42:05) Veralun: now we come to the problem scrolling the message
(09/16 21:42:16) Dudemom_2000: I love it!!!!!
(09/16 21:42:1Cool Jane: got the network message, & the baked treats too Smile
(09/16 21:42:24) Kerryth: Excellent!
(09/16 21:42:25) Dudemom_2000: I got it all on one page
(09/16 21:42:27) Thend: 'brought' needs a 'g'
(09/16 21:42:31) Lady Chaos: And I got the newest.
(09/16 21:42:32) Jenine: lol yep got that one
(09/16 21:42:35) Jane: yes it's on one page for me too
(09/16 21:42:4Cool ghaelen: k, done
(09/16 21:42:50) Kerryth: I think your screen resolution makes a difference.
(09/16 21:42:56) Thend: Thanks LC
(09/16 21:42:5Cool Lady Chaos: And I corrected some spelling.
(09/16 21:43:16) Jenine: would screen res help finding the treats or are they all gone?
(09/16 21:43:32) Jane runs to get the 2nd plate of brownies
(09/16 21:43:33) Lady Chaos hands Jenine a bag of Kirel Baked Treats
(09/16 21:43:35) ghaelen: how can I tell if I have gotten the correct corrected version?
(09/16 21:43:3Cool Veralun: I think we need to avoid that in future, because a lot of ppl do not know how to scroll
(09/16 21:43:3Cool Kerryth: The treats are never gone.
Finished with more food!!! but you get the idea...
Thanks again everyone!
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