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 Post subject: Adoption Unto Canon
PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:08 am 
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Is there any way to have an idea run past Cyan and then adopted to canon? If so, I await a response with rapt attention. Just one of those random thoughts with the advent of UCC and all and reading someone else's post on D'ni money. (which is something else I am curious about. Mabey it all got locked in Kadish's vault and the D'ni were forced to be socialist...)

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:44 am 
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Uh, it's "canon."

...and besides, RAWA recently posted Cyan's official policies on exactly what you are talking about. Search the forum.

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As in "canonical." Sometimes people hear it without knowing the roots of the word.

I took the five seconds to find for you what TNR referenced. See this thread:
http://www.mystonline.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15890

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Five seconds? It's stickied at the top of the forum, it should have only taken two seconds. :lol:

Now, why didn't I think to link to it? Ah, a question for the ages. :wink: :wink: :wink:

As for the word "canon" and its all-to-common misspelling as cannon, I think that it's more than a typo. People don't usually "hear" it. By and large, people are introduced (or more often, re-introduced) to the word via nerd forums like this one, or ones for Star Trek or other scifi/fantasy things. And they rarely see the conjugation "canonical," first, or... really, ever, because most people, even those who know the word "canon," don't know that *that* is a word.

However, anyone who has taken middle school English should know the word and the concept of "canon" from its use in the concepts of "literary canon," "Shakespearean canon" or "biblical canon." These same people, when they re-learn the word in relation to a modern fictional universe, often don't realize that it's the same word! And anyone who didn't learn the word in English class (or, rather, forgot it) but takes the time to familiarize themselves with the concept via online research should, frankly, know exactly how it's spelled.

This isn't true of most words, but misspelling "canon" is a sign that the concept behind the word is likely not fully understood.

I don't mean to pick on Ancient Player, because his misspelling of the word could have been for any number of reasons, but the fact that RAWA addressed this very point at the top of perhaps the most popular thread of the past month is a bit telling (although he certainly could just have, and very likely, simply missed it, sorry, man). And I also don't want to imply that correct spelling is at all important on a web forum. But there's a difference between misspelling and misunderstanding.

Rant over. :roll: (man, work is boring today)

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Man I'm stupid. Teaches me not to post before bed. And I think I can put the spelling errors up to sleep deprivation too. /palmface

PS I took a closer look and he never actually says if a UCC idea can be used as solid canon. It just must not interfere with existing canon. I'm just wondering if something someone makes could be taken by Cyan and made more official in the sense that it is not just another user idea and instead a solid fact.

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I took a closer look and he never actually says if a UCC idea can be used as solid canon. It just must not interfere with existing canon. I'm just wondering if something someone makes could be taken by Cyan and made more official in the sense that it is not just another user idea and instead a solid fact.


I recall RAWA saying that we are not allowed to contradict or interfere with existing story lines or future plans for story lines. If you present an idea that meshes with or matches what they have in mind, it is up to them to approve it. I think he even hinted that Cyan might ask some individuals or teams to add to the story line in selected ways sometime in the future.

I'd say go ahead with your idea and apply for an FCAL (Fan Created Art License) from Cyan for your ideas. The worst that can happen is that they say such-and-such conflicts with their existing story or future plans.

Even later when FCAL applications are reviewed by a multi-guild committee, those applications with potential future conflicts will be deferred to Cyan. If the application clearly conflicts or clearly avoids conflict, the committee will make the decision themselves. The Guild of Archivists (GoA) will shoulder most of the responsibility for determining whether an application conflicts with existing story lines in this new process.

Go for it!

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