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Stellaflora

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It was done in the UserKI 1.1 patch for Until URU. It's somthing that I miss because it's so usefull. Also if you send everyone you know an invite to your relto and leave all your book tabs up, there is the posablity of an undexpected guest Very Happy

(I like the idea that you can have visitors, and I really don't mind others wondering about my ages whilst I'm offline, I know that some people don't like that idea but they don't have to send out invites, or they can keep their tabs locked)

FreeLanZer

Joined: 09 May 2006

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Location: Holstebro // Denmark

Wow I really like this idea Wink

I hope someone from Cyan is seeing this since it sounds like a fairly easy thing to do and spreads so much joy. Very Happy

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Owehn

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The trouble is that it would hard to implement in an IC fashion. How do Yeesha's books suddenly end up in the Nexus system, and the DRC allow access to them? It seems kind of strange from that point of view.

I remember on UU shards where the UserKI was allowed, when you invite someone to your Relto they see a link from the nexus to the nexus, which is somewhat odd.

FreeLanZer

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Owehn wrote:

The trouble is that it would hard to implement in an IC fashion. How do Yeesha's books suddenly end up in the Nexus system, and the DRC allow access to them? It seems kind of strange from that point of view.

I remember on UU shards where the UserKI was allowed, when you invite someone to your Relto they see a link from the nexus to the nexus, which is somewhat odd.

Yeah now when you point it out that way I actuallu feel the same way about it since I promised myself to be more IC than I've been lately. Smile

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Stellaflora

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Owehn wrote:

The trouble is that it would hard to implement in an IC fashion. How do Yeesha's books suddenly end up in the Nexus system, and the DRC allow access to them? It seems kind of strange from that point of view.

I remember on UU shards where the UserKI was allowed, when you invite someone to your Relto they see a link from the nexus to the nexus, which is somewhat odd.

I don't think the differnt age instances has been explained either (everyone has their own instance of an age, which from in IC persective dosn't make sence), and the only reason for the Nexus pannel appearence was because the Nexus didn't have a Relto pannel to display.

Also the Nexus has a copy of everybody's indevidual instances of their other ages (which from the DRC perspective no one "officialy" had, since it's tied up with your Relto bookshelf, and the DRC did not condone the use or ownership of a Relto book), why should differnt Relto instances be any differnt?

Besides, the DRC have decided to embrace Yeesha's teachings now Very Happy

Qalthos

Joined: 09 May 2006

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Well, this is the only time I actually accept an OOC explanation over an IC one, that of ease of use and the individual playthrough. Relto (it could be argued) has private instances because Yeesha wanted it that way, so that we could all individually see the journey from start to finish, rather than just running through it. However, this does not explain the Nexus other than OOC, there aren't public instances of most Ages (though a few exist, I think)

Alahmnat

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I mentioned in the Game Discussion forum that it would be nice to have public instances of EVERY Age, along with private, Yeesha-powered instances of other places like Kadish, Eder Delin, etc. I think it would work a lot better from an IC perspective to have a single public instance for everyone, and have a separate, private instance accessible on your Relto bookshelf for when you want to go solve puzzles and explore alone or with a small group of friends without worrying about running into anyone else.

Here's a question though... in the event that someone solves a puzzle in a private instance, should that solution be reflected in the public instance, and how would that be handled, or would the solution need to be re-played in the public instance (not that I think such a situation is likely given the voracious rate at which community forum members devour fan-generated puzzles, but it's a thought).

Owehn

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I think that the changes made to private Ages should not show up in the public instances, were there any.

Stellaflora

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Location: Norfolk, England

Alahmnat wrote:

I mentioned in the Game Discussion forum that it would be nice to have public instances of EVERY Age,...

I've been wanting somthing like this for a while now. It would be wonderfull to be able to use D'ni Library copys and everyone gets to the same instance of the age. It would be like an extention to the city in a way, and it would encorage people to explore in groups, or would make an ideal gathering place for parties.
Of course, the first time you would go to an age you might prefer to invite a few friends to your relto to use a private instance.

goofy

Joined: 09 May 2006

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I have a small and maybe a easy one. How about when I look up someone in my Ki and it says they are in a neighborhood. it tells me which one?
Can't count how many times I look in my Ki and go to the DRC hood and find no one there. Sad

Also it might be nice to be able to add a cavern cam to a website. I know during prologue there was one. It would be nice if that came back with some added features. I'd love to be able to add that to my site.

FreeLanZer

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Location: Holstebro // Denmark

Hmm yes that might prove useful for everybody.. Smile

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Morningstar

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It seems almost all agree that having a public copy of each age accessible through the Library or Museum would be great. In fact, it would help people find new places to gather, instead of the top of the Great Stairs or the Library plaza as we did in these years.

The only thing I don't know how Cyan could deal with is: what about ages that require puzzle solving? If the public Age is all solved, it would spoil you own exploration... I think this is the reason why only Kemo had a hood copy in the first Uru: it's the only age where there's "nothing to do", and so no exploration to spoil.

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subumbra

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Morningstar wrote:

If the public Age is all solved, it would spoil you own exploration... I think this is the reason why only Kemo had a hood copy in the first Uru: it's the only age where there's "nothing to do", and so no exploration to spoil.

Yes I can see this being a problem. The public age puzzles would be solved VERY quickly, I would imagine. Like in a couple of days probably.

Perhaps we just need more ages like Kemo, where there's nothing to do. Maybe Eder Delin is intended to be entirely public in this fashion. Maybe there should be public only ages that don't appear on our shelves at all. After all Ae'gura is a public only age, and we will undoubtedly get more public City areas eventually. Why shouldn't we have other public only ages, ones without puzzles, just great places to hang out, like we do in the City.

Meanwhile the "puzzle" ages can be private when they are released, but eventually, after say a month or so, a public version could appear in the Library. This would give us all a chance to solve the ages by ourselves if so inclined.

Morningstar

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subumbra wrote:

Meanwhile the "puzzle" ages can be private when they are released, but eventually, after say a month or so, a public version could appear in the Library. This would give us all a chance to solve the ages by ourselves if so inclined.

This could be a nice compromise indeed. I'm curious about what is Cyan's point of view. Smile

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subumbra

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Getting back to the main topic... I'm surprised no one has mentioned this one yet:

Age coordinates displayed on the small KI like in CC, perhaps with a button or Fkey to toggle them on and off. This could be displayed just above the chat.

Cyan has "hinted" at more advanced marker games. I imagine that these will be not only in D'ni but in other ages as well, using Maintainer Markers as reference points. Having to open up the KI projection to check where you are, as in the present KI version, is the equivalent of having to pull over and stop your car every time you change the radio station.

Btw I predict that this is something Cyan has already implemented and that we'll see it immediately with the launch of Uru Live and the new KI (version 3 or 4?) Razz

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