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Post Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:53 pm — Post subject: Shard OK'd by Cyan?

This post has shown up at GoMa: ____shard gets Cyan's Ok...

So, has Cyan actually ok'd the shard? Does anyone actually know?

If Cyan Ok'd it, why would we not be able to discuss it on this forum?

The idea that we can't discuss it here because someone is still working on MOOS and does not like the idea of a currently live shard seems a bit far fetched... not impossible... but... If instructions to the moderators have not been updated, that could be a reason. But, they should be able to query and find out...


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Post Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:34 pm — Post subject:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, no.

But really, if this turns out to be truthful, I'll eat my hat. Well, if I can find a hat. I'll eat something.

It seems much more likely that maybe he got an e-mail along the lines of "Well, we can't do much to stop you, just don't talk about it on our forums." and that got reinterpreted into "CYAN SAYS IT'S OK". Regardless, I'm curious to see how this develops.


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Post Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:44 pm — Post subject:

Still does not address the legality of Myst V content on the shard.

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Post Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:19 pm — Post subject: Re: Shard OK'd by Cyan?

Nalates wrote:

This post has shown up at GoMa: ____shard gets Cyan's Ok...

So, has Cyan actually ok'd the shard? Does anyone actually know?



Cyan Worlds did not give the "OK" or any form of sanction for any shard outside of Cyan, including the pelishard.


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Post Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:30 pm — Post subject:

Thank you, Chogon...I bow to your Uruness (and good to hear from you!)


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:06 am — Post subject:

the plot thickens, like week old thanksgiving gravy


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:47 am — Post subject:

TY Eleri...made my day in July... Laughing

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:05 am — Post subject: Re: Shard OK'd by Cyan?

Chogon wrote:

Nalates wrote:

This post has shown up at GoMa: ____shard gets Cyan's Ok...

So, has Cyan actually ok'd the shard? Does anyone actually know?



Cyan Worlds did not give the "OK" or any form of sanction for any shard outside of Cyan, including the pelishard.


Chogon



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More than nice to hear there is 'life' in the Desert and doubly so to learn Cyan is looking after their own, rightful property. Perhaps the flowers will bloom in the desert once again.

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:25 am — Post subject:

Eleri wrote:

the plot thickens, like week old thanksgiving gravy


Only thing better than week-old thanksgiving gravy is a week-old thanksgiving gravy skinned, deep-fried. Very Happy


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:30 am — Post subject:

We should, i humble encourage, follow Cyan's desires in all these things. We have only to wait a bit longer. Let's be patient and honour the trust they show by their efforts to let us back in the Cavern.

we will be back soon i hope, and i trust. Lets be our highest selves.


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:58 am — Post subject:

Just to make clear: the post on the GoMa forum was made by someone quoting the original post from the shard's forum.

Using my evil GoMa forum moderator powers, the thread title has been changed to make clear that the shard does NOT have Cyan's OK. The thread is now in the general discussion area rather than the announcements section.

Thank you, Chogon, for making this very clear statement.

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:29 am — Post subject:

i believe it was more a case of neither approve nor shut down, as the pelishard IS known to chogon, and Cyan.

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:09 pm — Post subject:

kaelisebonrai wrote:

i believe it was more a case of neither approve nor shut down, as the pelishard IS known to chogon, and Cyan.


I think that no approval means disapproval in this case. Of course it hasn't led to a shutdown, because Cyan can't access the shard and can only stop it through taking it to court, and they probably have more important things to do than that.

It's one thing to publicise a shard, but it's really sad that they put words in Cyan's mouth and thus mislead people. Rolling Eyes People that are on that shard should ask themselves, do I really want to be on a shard that acts like that?


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:31 pm — Post subject:

Erik wrote:

they put words in Cyan's mouth and thus mislead people.


We do not know that concidering that there is a lot of dialog in people's secondary language going on. It is easy see how either Cyan or anyone else can miss-understand what has been said and just what was really meant. We see it all the time here. I will not be so fast as to point finger of guilt in either direction.


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:39 pm — Post subject:

Not knowing what is exactly in Pelishard and what part of the game may or may not include Cyan content or whether they distribute any of the MOUL or Cyan game files, I can't really know what the full story is.

If Pelishard was requiring one to have ABM/CC to play and only distributing fan created ages and using alcugs server, there would not be much to shut down. That probably would not be a problem for fans or Cyan. I just don't know what they were doing and I have not heard anyone say. Unless some one that was there steps out and says, it is just speculation and not evidence on which to base a burning at the stake.

The problem post is about endorsement... It claimed Cyan had 'OK'd' the shard, that is a claim of endorsement. IF Cyan had, they clearly did not, I would have been signing up, as I think many of us would have. Many are upset feeling it was an attempt to mislead fans.

I posted because the original post, which was a repost to the GoMa forum, did not ring true. It comes out that skepticism was valid. The reaction has shaken many in the Uru community that wonder about parts of replications and look-a-like builds in SL and THERE. I know some of those builders go to great lengths to make everything from scratch, other not so much. But some are rethinking that 'not so much'. And even if we make something totally from scratch, how much alike can we make it? Would a near exact replica of Ae'gura done in teal rather than browns with similar but different textures be legit? What if the building shapes were only vaguely similar and no Cyan textures were used? By law a recognizablely similar copy is still some measure of infringement in trademark and patent areas. At some point the similarity becomes a matter of copyright infriengement (one sees these lines of argument in the music industry all the time - how many notes per stanza have to change for it to be a new song?) This all gets very grey and makes for lots of arguments. Many of us avoid the whole thing and do Myst-Uru style building (Devokan is a good example with a Channelwood inspired age or the Riven inspired age in another).

I know many of us have looked at how to move the Cyan content to other platforms and game engines. The results are waiting on Cyan to issue the licenses. If we had the licenses, even without the source code, the community would know where the lines are and what they could do. Much of the confusion over where textures, sound files and other parts of the MOUL game can or cannot be used would end and remove some of the divisions within the community. The existing licenses some fans have make it even more confusing...

Even just having the license for Cyan content would reduce the problems, imo. Until then, most of the community has decided to respect Cyan's wishes and wait for the licenses. Hopefully we will see them soon and avoid seeing another fan go down in flames because of their impatience.


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