Please come visit... or (even better) join this neighbourhood if you wish to be in a safe, fun space... The Female's Hood. There are now about seven of us, hoping for some more company.

Potential future events include discussion groups, drumming, music... the sky's the limit! Bring your ideas, or just bring yourself and let your hair down.

Advocates for Youth describe a Safe Space as:

A place where anyone can relax and be fully self-expressed, without fear of being made to feel uncomfortable, unwelcome, or unsafe on account of biological sex, race/ethnicity, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, cultural background, age, or physical or mental ability; a place where the rules guard each person's self-respect and dignity and strongly encourage everyone to respect others.

The Female's Hood will public for as long as we can keep it that way: women daily drop-in to visit and check it out.

Men, you are welcome to visit, but please respect women’s space, avoid co-opting, and be willing to step aside.

Thanks!
Nellie Bly

PS if you need to know how to join a Hood, please let me know, I'm happy to help.

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This seems to be a no brainer Nelly.
I will be glad to stop by for a visit and you never can tell, you may have a new member.
Been looking for a "new" and "improved" better Bevin or Hood.

Just keep in mind that last year there was a nice female player that approached other nice female players, and as soon as she got them to join her hood, she became very demanding, annoying, even threatening. These other females were hurt and scared. (For details, ask those who socialize).
I wouldn't trust someone who just popped up in a new avvie bearing gifts.

I still don't understand though what this Hood will protect you from compared to other Hoods.. Last time I checked we can't get raped online.

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Normally, I like to encourage any new ideas that benefit Uru, and I hate to nitpick, but your female-only group doesn't fit in with the definition of a Safe Space that you quoted. It's actually hypocritical. Perhaps you should take the basic idea and write your own definition of a Safe Space for Females.

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NellieBly wrote:

Men, please respect women’s-only space, avoid co-opting, and be willing to step aside.

Couldn't you just make a female avatar?

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Adi,

Thanks for weighing in, and for the history. This idea won't appeal to everyone, and what it becomes will depend on what we make of it.

So far we've had some very interesting conversations with regulars and visitors, but none of the behaviour that you describe, has occurred. A few guys come in and stare, eventually leave. One woman's stalker followed her into the Hood, then left after most of us put him on our ignore list.

Hugs,
Nellie

adi wrote:

Just keep in mind that last year there was a nice female player that approached other nice female players, and as soon as she got them to join her hood, she became very demanding, annoying, even threatening. These other females were hurt and scared. (For details, ask those who socialize).
I wouldn't trust someone who just popped up in a new avvie bearing gifts.

I still don't understand though what this Hood will protect you from compared to other Hoods.. Last time I checked we can't get raped online. :P

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adi wrote:

I still don't understand though what this Hood will protect you from compared to other Hoods.. Last time I checked we can't get raped online.

Already jumping on the big words...

Oh and thanks to TOOO who posted something on "The Public Derailed Thrash Post" where I saw a "derailed" post by you Adi...

adi wrote:

This is getting really disgusting. Don't people have other things to do than "collecting chat logs" to report their fellow explorers? Grow up people.
Oh right, you're already grown up, retired even. How mature.

How mature is to look elsewhere when a crime is commit and do like it's never happened?

Growing up is to report people's improper speeches to report people's improper actions too.

I'll fight this to the end! Some, men or women, have social disorders and sorry, if they cannot behave online in this community, we cannot let them there.

There are entire family who play this game, there are many different cultural background explorers who play this game. You cannot know what will offend this guy or this other guy.

Just a simple example that's not related to sex but may offend people: from my french background, I'm eating a type of animal that men have use for riding since the Antiquity. If I'm gonna eat that for my meal and I happen to tell people I'm gonna eat supper for instance, I'll elude this to buddy chat unless I'm in the presence of only "french culture" explorers who will clearly understand why I'm eating this and they won't be offend.

So yes, clearly there's sensible subject that shouldn't be discuss online for cultural, religious, sexual, political sensibilities. There is a nifty censor system in place but it has its limits. Take a british impolite word and the censor system don't even see it. Wrote the word with any space or any modification in it and it passes the censor system.

You can also be offend indirectly when a french guy comes and ask: "What (explorer) meant when he(she) wrote me in PM this ****?"

I have to tell the guy. I know the exact meaning of it and I'm totally disgusted but still I'm telling for him to improve his knowledge. That particular issue I reported.

Actions can be enough subjective as well. Maybe there's no rape as you subject but there's "intimacy circle" issues that I've heard or even fell myself. It's pernicious as their perpretors are already pernicious sneaky individuals. If I'm showing to someone a hard jump and that person has to stand right inside me because that's the starting point, I won't mind if that person stands there and more if I'm asking that person to "enter" in my avatar... otherwise that's intimacy aggression! I play enough with 2 avatars for my quest editing to know what can be seen when my helping avatar is sitting to let the main avatar enough sighting to see the next moves. I hope I don't need to post a picture...

Being grown up, I will defend myself and report behaviours, I did, I got some "elements" out already. Did they return? Maybe. Did they wake up? I hope. Did they still do the same? I fear and I'm hoping someone else will report them as well.

Take a small girl for instance. As she been prepared for such? Are her parents around whe she play online? I've help a young lady once and I remember asking her if her parents knew I was playing with her and if they were in accordance and such. Maybe someone made me pass a test also... I've heard some like to "test" their fellow explorers to see how they really behave. Well, nevertheless, I'm always acting the same so "real little girl" or "test", I'll always act the same way.

There's enough communities on the web for such subject we don't need it in URU. This is an adventure game, a puzzle game.

So, I support Nellie in creating her hood.

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Mac_Fife wrote:

I have to say that my initial feeling is that creating something like a Female's Hood is maybe just creating a magnet for the "undesireables" - maybe a bit self-defeating. But I may be wrong. In any case, I'll wish you luck with the venture

I remember back in the Game Tap days, my dad told me about a 'kids only hood' that immediately got trounced on by all kinds of undesirables...I was younger at the time and it really upset me...I hope this 'adult' ladies hood fairs better than that incident... good luck....I choose to opt out on it, however.

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I too fear you have made a target for adolescent undesirables. Perhaps something that denotes strong independent women - hmm - Boudicca's Hood?

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I don't see what the big deal is. Back in the old days there was a group called "The Ladies Garden Club" where women would get together for monthly parties. Guys had their own similar version too, and sometimes the two groups would get together for a giant party. No one said anything back then, so why the criticism?

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I think Nelly is just wanting to have a Bevin/Hood that caters to women.
I don't think it is a place to congregate to avoid bad language and things of such.
Just female talk, readings, and other chit chat. Sounds sort of interesting even though we have had such things before.
There are so many Bevins and Hoods that have different things in them.
As for the language use that may not be likeable to some people, please ignore people like that and don't start drama.
I have been subjected to "so called" children cursing and adults cursing. I do know that some people have there children
playing URU, but it is what it is. I also agree that it is such a shame that people are running chat logs to catch people saying
the wrong thing. We all come from different walks of life and we came to URU for fun, get togethers, etc., not to worry about Big Brother listening in with chat logs and such. These things are just a few reasons I just stop by on occassion to play some of Annabelle's wonderful marker games. No chat logs for me and others. This sort of thing just ruins the game for many of us.
And before people jump on my head.....this is only my opinion.

Tomala wrote:

I don't see what the big deal is. Back in the old days there was a group called "The Ladies Garden Club" where women would get together for monthly parties. Guys had their own similar version too, and sometimes the two groups would get together for a giant party. No one said anything back then, so why the criticism?

Hehe, this is very simple, isn't it ... it is always what you're putting into sth and how you're presenting it ...

"The Ladies Garden Club" back then created a 'New Fun Space for Women' and there were also knitting ladies etc., and I'm certain that they also in the beginning had to tell curious guys in a respectful way that they really just wanted to enjoy themselves for some time without their company lol ...

To create a 'New Safe Space for Women' is sth else and already by that naming could make others feel segregated and uneasy ... like that, one is putting oneself on a stage so to speak and excludes others from the fun and additionally alienating them already by that label at the same time ... That's what you're getting back here, especially in times of uncertainty and frustration, and we're not very many ... back then we were many and everybody had a greater choice to join whichever hood with like-minded people and according to your preferences and interests, and one didn't care so much about the other manifold hoods and shards etc... Yeah, I think that is it or might be it ...

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Nicoleleigh really says it in a nutshell.

Nicoleleigh wrote:

I think Nelly is just wanting to have a Bevin/Hood that caters to women.
I don't think it is a place to congregate to avoid bad language and things of such.
Just female talk, readings, and other chit chat.

And thanks Annabelle for your kind and strong support. I have updated the original post, adding 'fun'. As you can doubtless tell, I am not that experienced organising... learning as I go. Thank you again for all of your feedback.

Gentlemen--- true gentlemen, have visited our hood--- and I for one felt richer for the experience. I hope there is no perception of segregation. I hope that things continue as well as they have in the past week.

There is probably no public space immune to bullying, immature behaviour and other social disorders. But it is a good feeling to have other women watching out for me, and I'll do my best to watch out for others.

The Hood is a place for women to gather as needed, and will grow slowly if we keep it alive. Looking into a dance/concert event to take place soon... as soon as I learn enough about planning an event (happily there's a lot to read right here in this forum).

Hugs,
Nellie

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