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JKla

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Post Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 8:05 am — Post subject: Hood customization

In view of the planned expansion in numbers how about some Hood Customization tools.

I know theres the celebration decorations and the fountain stuff but how about an option to re-tile the floor and repair cracks.

I am talking more about appearance things that would make the hood specific and make visiting other hoods points of interest.

The option of removing the heek table and replacing it with something else.

I am still not sure what it would be replaced with.


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Post Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 12:53 pm — Post subject:

If D'ni got some sort of economy, you might be able to buy tiles for the floor, or contractors to repair things, etc. Might be nice to see that.


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JKla

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Post Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 3:23 pm — Post subject:

Economy asside as this seems to be a point that allways draws flack. Sad

My idea was that each hood is theoretically a different area of the city suburbs. If they are all the same it detracts from this illusion.

It has allways bugged me that there was not something to allow the door numbers in the back corridor tie into the KI number of the hood owner.

As it is the only individuality is the content of the viewscreens.

I am sure you are aware the traffic that was generated on the back the easter egg hunt put together by GoldenWedge. Very Happy


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Post Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 6:25 pm — Post subject:

JKla wrote:

Economy asside as this seems to be a point that allways draws flack. Sad

My idea was that each hood is theoretically a different area of the city suburbs. If they are all the same it detracts from this illusion.

It has allways bugged me that there was not something to allow the door numbers in the back corridor tie into the KI number of the hood owner.


How many suburbs on the surface fall victim to the plague of identicality (yes, that is so a word... now)? Wink

I don't think the numbers over the doors in the 'hoods are supposed to relate to anybody's KI number, because they're addresses, and would have been there long before the KI's usage was widespread. The Nexus and the KIs likely helped make the 'hoods a lot more popular in the time just before the Fall, but I'd be surprised if their advent was after the KI boom. You'd just need a more regulated access point to a separate Age (maybe using traditional locks and keys) with a link back to your own 'hood.

Now, it would be nice if those numbers were different from 'hood to 'hood, and it would also be quite nice if the GZ coordinates weren't totally identical from 'hood to 'hood, but I imagine that, given the way the 'hoods are constructed, pulling off those two things (especially the GZ coordinates) would be rather considerably difficult. I have, however, been asking since the Ubi beta for an interface when creating a new 'hood to select what options you want to have (lamp style, garden fungal growths, 'heek table, lanterns, etc.), rather than leaving it up to the Vault to choose at random.

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Post Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 8:19 pm — Post subject:

Even suburbs on the surface have different cracks in the pavement (sidewalk) and different wall textures. Sad

I appreciate that the door numbers pre-date the KI and our hood owners I just thought it would be nice if you wanted to you could look at the door number decode it from the D'ni numerals and find out who owned the hood you were in.

And this is one thing all hoods have an owner who has a KI number so why not tie the two together. I don't want to make an issue of it though it is just an idea I am throwing in the pot.

I didn't throw hood cordinates in the pot because I figured that wasn't do-able but the customization you talk about the customization that the vault selects at random there must be a way of doing that and adding a couple more options like

"repair the floor before the absetee landlord comes back" Smile


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Post Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 9:29 pm — Post subject:

It might be fun if all hood owners agreed to a change or a majority at least. Otherwise, I can see it causing trouble since most hoods have multiple owners.

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Post Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 5:26 am — Post subject:

I have allways been given to believe that any given hood has one owner.

Some people have had problems where they cannot cure the GZ bug because if they change hood (the normal work around) the hood even though it has a membership will die. as soon as it is empty and orphaned.

An admin can go in the vault and re-asssign this hood to a specific user and on the TMP shard I believe our shard owner created a dummy Avi to have the hood. And since that avi is not used it is unlikely to need the GZ fix

Warning this may be wrong.
What is not wrong is a hood is initaly created by one user. not a pair not a team but an individual user account avatar with a single KI number.

Please take this subject to confirmation but It is what I have allways been given as the current state of affairs. Very Happy

PS. I have been known to be wrong before Wink


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Post Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 2:47 pm — Post subject:

I think I remember reading that any member of a hood is also an owner, and so only if all the members leave will the hood be deleted.


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Post Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 8:59 pm — Post subject:

Correct Smile.

Honestly, I'd like to see a little bit more hierarchy in the 'hood management system this time around... for a while Cyan was playing with the idea of "mayors", who would be the 'hood's creator and thus have access to more controls over the 'hood, but it never went very far and everyone ended up having equal control over things... which can be kind of annoying when people keep setting the 'hood to be private (or public) without asking, or change the description of the 'hood.

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Post Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 9:49 pm — Post subject:

Yeah, I'd like to see better Hood management options, i find hood creation and management rather vague and annoying, being able to delete a hood right off the bat would be nice incase you mess up (only mayors of the hood would be allowed to do this not regular members)


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Post Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 11:22 pm — Post subject:

Alahmnat wrote:

Correct Smile.

Honestly, I'd like to see a little bit more hierarchy in the 'hood management system this time around... for a while Cyan was playing with the idea of "mayors", who would be the 'hood's creator and thus have access to more controls over the 'hood, but it never went very far and everyone ended up having equal control over things... which can be kind of annoying when people keep setting the 'hood to be private (or public) without asking, or change the description of the 'hood.



I think one way to solve that problem would be to let everyone have equal control over everything, and then when one person wants to change something (like making the hood private or adding decorations), a vote would be sent out to everyone in the hood to agree or disagree. If the majority disagrees, the hood stays the same, if not, the hood changes.

In my original hood (DRC 29), someone kept changing the hood to private. I finally left, because I was tired of it. I still don't know why people would want a hood with over 100 people in it to be set to private.


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Post Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 4:03 am — Post subject:

If the ability to switch the hood between public and private is restricted what happens if the when the designated person is not available?

The concept like a forum of owner and moderators is probably a sound structure with the internal politic decided by the administrator.

If they then want to run it as a democracy that’s up to them a family hood might choose to go private and stay that way. They may choose to be a benevolent dictator.

All I was suggesting was some tools to control the appearance a nice way to foster individuality (even if that is a group individuality and yes I know this is an oxymoron, you know I mean group identity).

You find on the private shards the admis. have the ability to switch on and off celebration settings add and remove Eddie and the fruit collection. etc.

As always I keep harping back to the private shards but it's my only source of reference. Even then these features are only observed I have never had the privilege of being an admin to speak from experience.

In view of the forecast increase in membership how about a sub division of hoods into community IC and OOC hoods Family hoods etc. theres going to be a lot of hoods when we break the 1000 member mark. I am going to start a new thread for that discussion ignore it here and look for a new thread on Hood sub grouping


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Post Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 9:50 pm — Post subject:

I personally would love to see more hood customization. After all, apart from a few small things, all the hoods are identical. It'd be great to see some variety in hood layout, decor etc. Maybe this could be done by the hood owner?

I think an economy is a great idea - instead of buying stuff for hoods maybe we could purchase stuff for Relto e.g. furniture, devices etc. That way everyone's Relto really would be unique to them. I dunno... Just a few thoughts Smile

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Post Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 11:46 pm — Post subject:

I'm assuming that once we have a good set of garden Ages, we'll be able to decide which garden Age we want in our book rooms. Or at least I'm hoping we get the ability to do that!

I'd still like to see some randomly assigned 'hood features (the fungus, the clock, the islands page, the moth/fish lamps). But the hanging D'ni lanterns, Eddie, fire marbles, any banners... for those it would be nice to have the option to toggle them on and off. They're things that the 'hood owners could conceivably put in storage and then whip out whenever necessary. More of both type of thing would be nice.

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Post Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 5:22 am — Post subject:

I thought of this too...
just an idea: The hood creator would be the hood admin by default. An admin could designate other admins. The admins have the power to flip the options. If there is only one admin, the admin cannot change hoods unless there are no members. The admin would have to designate a new admin to quit. If there is only 1 member (the admin), then there is a confirmation box asking if you want to delete the hood (similar to deleteing an avie). Admins only could bring changes to the hood (name, public/private), but any member can send invites (like currently), or join a new member (again, like currently).

If there is more than one admin, it's up to them to figure how the hood runs... democracy, benevolent dictatorship... etc.

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