I remember, I think it'd have to be the Book of Atrus (I get the names mixed up all the time) Gehn had this servant guy who couldn't talk...

...do you think there's any possiblity that the DRC or such misinterpereted who this guy was supposed to be? Sometimes I wonder if he was some kind of misinterperetation of a Bah'ro...

I just keep wondering when or if Atrus (or even Gehn) knew of the Bah'ro.

I keep thinkin' that the information we're presented with in the novels isn't entirely accurate. I have to imagine that the Fall of D'ni took more than the actions of a couple of goofballs... ...especially after listening to Yeesha in Uru.


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nope, i think gehn was to incompetent and "evil" to control a bahro.. he just wouldnt know how that would work.

atrus wouldnt know about them unless any of the D'ni he found later on had told him, but i guess as they were so used to them they didnt even know about the bahro. No, i think no one told Atrus about them and he didnt notice. I think we only hear the bahro screams in the caverns because some bahros were already freed

If Yeesha ever visits Atrus, I would expect her to tell him about them.

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Joey Zoonishii wrote:

Gehn had this servant guy who couldn't talk...

Gehn's serving man was called Rijus. He is described as tall with a 'great domed head that seemed to be made of polished ivory,' and strange eyes; "lidless eyes that were like blemished eggs in his otherwise undistinguished face."

It doesn't sound like he was bahro. It's not just the physical characteristics though (which, admittedly, could be Wingrovisms). I just don't think a bahro would go anywhere near Gehn. Even if one did, I suspect that Gehn would be quite unable to bend one to his will and make it his servant.

Yeah... I suppose he wasn't a Bah'ro... ...I can't help but wonder what the deal with that guy was.

I dunno about Gehn and the Bah'ro, though. I don't think you'd have to bend a Bah'ro to your will. They seem to live to give.


~Joey "Ol' Egg-Eyes is back" Zoonishii

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On the basis of the communication that has happened so far between human and bahro, I'd be surprised if he bothered. There seems to be practically no common ground between our minds and theirs, the only individual whom we know to have established any kind of contact with them came back considerably changed by the experience (to put it kindly), and the best we know of them is that sometimes they will do what they do when we need them to do it.

I'd guess that Rijus was either a survivor of a subject race or a suborned surface-dweller.

I kinda ssumed that Rijus was brought back to D'ni as a slave from one of the ages that Ghen 'created'. Rijus was unusual, you could almost say defective, as was the fruit that he offered to Atrus. Pretty typical of the things that Ghen wrote.

Deius wrote:

Gehn's serving man was called Rijus.

Funny, I don't see a resemblance to your description.

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Jeff K. wrote:

Funny, I don't see a resemblance to your description.

Thanks I needed that!

What I'd like to know is what happend to Rijus after Ghen was trapped in Riven? Did he just wait loyaly in K'veer until he died of old age? (or hunger if he wasn't allowed to use the books without Ghens premission), or did he decide to leave Ghens service and link back to his home age, burning the book behind him? (Just because he couldn't talk, it dosn't mean he couldn't listen and I can just imagine him overhearing Atus, then realising that Ghen was'nt a god and taking his first oppotunity to get away witout Ghen noticing)

Or did he try following Ghen to Riven when he didn't come back, and Ghen killed him because he failed to bring a linking book back to D'ni with him?

Hrm... I've always wondered if mayhaps the mute servant of Ghen's, Rijus, and the mute servant of A'Gaeris, Corlam, were not in fact the same person.

I know it sounds crazy, but before the fall it mentioned that A'Gaeris used Corlam as a sounding board, so he would definitely be intimate with A'Gaeris' plans to destroy the D'ni, and therefore could have fled before the plague was released. He could then have returned sometime later, and finding Ghen on K'Veer, could have resumed his life of servitude, only now to Ghen, and not to A'Gaeris. He also had knowledge of a boat hidden on K'Veer, which he could have used somehow in escaping from A'Gaeris and Veovis's book hunting, and destruction of all other boats in D'ni during the fall.

It may be, however, that this is completely wrong, as in the book of D'ni, it mentions that there were many mute servants among the relyimah, and it's not unlikely that as was previously mentioned that Ghen had indeed just taken a mute from one of his defective ages. Another flaw in my theory is that it seems unlikely that Ghen would name him himself, as numbering people was his standard practive. It could be, however, that Rijus was named by A'Gaeris, but did not like that name and changed it after he fled. He then could have shown Ghen his new name in writing when asked about it.

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