darkling27 wrote:

But wasnt there earthquakes during the 5th myst game? Which is long after d'ni has fallen, which would mean that bombs are out of the question

Myst 5 may have some "non-cannon" elements in it....

Meaning Cyan/Ubi may have taken some liberties, there, for effect. We'll need word from, say.... RAWA to be really sure on this.

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I'd really like said answer personaly. When I first read the book (2 weeks ago. I'm an heretic, I know) I original though the walls were breaching and the laval pools refered to at the begining of the book were going to flow into the city. Needless to say my heart skipped a few beats.

Slightly stupid of me, though. D'ni wouldn't be in the shape it's in now had that occured. So, my preliminary guess was obviously bad, as the rest of the book confirmed. Yet, I have to this no found no actual explanation for these quakes.

Yiodan

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There were quakes prior to the bombings, though. That's what shut down the construction of the Great Shaft.

Those happened a number of miles from the cavern. The cavern itself is not known for regular quakes. How do I know this? Simple; none of the D'ni buildings were designed to resist quakes. They obviously weren't expecting them.

Im pretty sure that Veovis and the tremmers were not related. They are most likely related to the fact that there is a volcano near by, which means the cavern could be near the edge of a plate.

I think Veovis may of carried out his plans when he saw this opertunity, while the people of d'ni where already worrying about somethign else.

The Cavern is NOT in a volcanic region. It's very NEAR a volcanic region.

Even so, the volcano practicly at d'nis doorway must of had something to do with it IMHO.

Well, as it has already been stated, the D'ni probably weren't expecting any sort of quakes. Either that, or the physical destruction of the cavern wasn't caused by quakes.

So either somehow the D'ni knew that the volcano would be dormant forever, so didn't bother building their structures to withstand quakes, and the bombs (or whatever they did) were designed to wake the volcano up (in some senses) OR something else caused destruction to the city and surrounding areas. I doubt they placed bombs everywhere in the town. Maybe in the ceiling of the cavern, causing rocks to fall and rain destruction, but that's not what it sounds like happened.

Feel free to throw proverbial d'ni rubble at me, but could the earthquakes be caused by the Bahro, at least in part.

i come to this conjecture on a number of levels, and i like the tunnel idea too.
I live in England So we don't get quakes, but a couple of years ago in Salford we got some, small ones. not big enough to drop buildings. Apparently because of a vast network of tunnels leading under the city built over the last 300 years, and a couple of them collapsed. But i suppose if many tunnels were to collapse there could have been much more damage.

we've seen many Bahro caves so far, some above the city others seemingly above the "starry expanse" and some completely closed off like the link from Er'cana (wonder how we breathe). Assuming these are somehow created around the cavern and that there may be many more which we don't have access to. Is it possible that the creation of these is what causes the quakes and rockfalls?

in argument though, the destruction isn't only on D'ni, its in Gareseen too, though not seemingly any of the other ages.

Finally.....after all these years I just completed reading all three books........ BoA, BoT and BoD. I have to say I was spellbound and couldn't put the book down.

My feeling is that several factors contributed to the quake that resulted in the distruction of D'ni. Most of all, I think the massive drilling while building the Great Shaft caused instability in the volcanic plates and tunnels beneath D'ni initiating the disaster at the site. We know, on that fatal day, hooded figures were seen pushing a cart throughout the city. We know of A'Gaeris' influence over Veovis, his deep seeded hate and desire to see D'ni destroyed. Veovis and A'Gaeris had 5 bombs to be placed in 5 major Guilds, the first to go off was in the InkMakers Guild. I think the bombs were the straw that broke the camels back so to speak....acting on the instability below, thus causing the massive quake and the release of the gas.

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I think the bombs were the straw that broke the camels back so to speak....acting on the instability below, thus causing the massive quake and the release of the gas.

SG

The gas was released intentionally, fed through the cavern by the ventilation fans. Aitrus finds the machines that released the gas while he's looking for a way to the surface through the tunnels.

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One thing that always bugged me about the great shaft. Was that the D'ni where masters at working in the earth and with stone.

WHY would they build something like the great shaft in an unstable area as it just acted like a giant amplifier to the earthquake.

Though back to bussiness, cavern earthquakes during the fall. I'd be inclined to believe the murdering bastards set off explosives along the fault line.

Though even with all the confusion and panic. What I don't understand is why with a clear threat to the cavern with a Bio-wepon the mainters didn't suit up from their ages and get back into the cavern. They'd have been able to stop Veovis and co easily.

Maybe the confusion and the terror really did alot of damage to stop a proper response but it seems strange.

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You left out one improtant clue
to the Great Fall It was also mentioned that there was this
gooy substance all over everything in the cavern.
What was this substance? Was it the poison that killed everyone?
what I think the gas that viovus(spelling) used was
acid gas that he put into 5 bombs placed in
strugic places along the shafts air vent fans.

The acid gas would eat away everything it touched which made the
rock weak and crumble and cave in etc. it would also leave a gooy
residue coating over everything. maybe it was just Acid he used because
Acid gas when breathed will kill you too!

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VoiZod wrote:

You left out one improtant clue
to the Great Fall It was also mentioned that there was this
gooy substance all over everything in the cavern.
What was this substance? Was it the poison that killed everyone?
what I think the gas that viovus(spelling) used was
acid gas that he put into 5 bombs placed in
strugic places along the shafts air vent fans.

The acid gas would eat away everything it touched which made the
rock weak and crumble and cave in etc. it would also leave a gooy
residue coating over everything. maybe it was just Acid he used because
Acid gas when breathed will kill you too!

The poison gas was indeed what killed most of the people; however, it was more than just acid or some toxic substance -- it was actually some kind of living biological weapon. It is described in the Book of Ti'ana.

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yep, that was biological. And another reason to believe that wasn't acid, is that in the book is written that everything was covered by that substance but nothing was damaged. Books weren't corroded nor the buildings, only the living beings were killed

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nods his head, TY I learned something today! lol

Biological weapon I bet it was either the same or a mutated form,
of the substance that the Great King Ahlendar had the guild of chemist make
secretly to kill off the pento people. jump ahead a few years and there
is another plauge, jump ahead and viovus finds a vail of the stuff while secretly robbing the great kings tomb and had his partner make more of it.

Also maybe unrealated but Atrus also brought plauge with him when he and
some D'ni went to Terahtee this is also clue to where most all the evil
bahro came from because they were not effected and over 2 billion strong!~

The Relyimah which the terahtee people called the Bahro , The D'ni people
are the ones who called them Bahro.


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