Tappro wrote:

The purpose of that new journey can be quite simple - solving puzzle cooperatively, get some experience in this, create a team, coordinate it, take roles and win. Kind of new experience in solving puzzles that can't be solved by one man.

That sounds like an OOC reasoning, I'm interested in the IC reasoning here.

Why would Yeesha want us in teams? What will we find when we "win"? That was the whole point of this thread before we lost track here.

I also wonder what the point of the age is. There aren't any Relto pages, the age takes 1-2 minutes to explore (it's the 2nd smallest age out there, unless the Nexus isn't really an age), there seems to be no storyline for this, it doesn't even seem to be a real journey as the cloths don't save progress or grow as you click on them, plus it doesn't have the Yeesha stamp or appear in your bookcase. Oddly enough, it doesn't have the DRC stamp either. A third-party book from someone who infiltrated the DRC?

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Is there no change at all, GAThrawn?

Just the half donut , other than that nothing else happened.

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GAThrawn wrote:

Just the half donut, other than that nothing else happened.

I'd spoiler that if I were you.

But really Thrawn, someday I'm going to read a post by you that's not bashing on something, and that'll be the day I have a heart attack.

Anyway, getting back to the point.. all previous ages not only tried to teach us a concept, but Yeesha reinforced it later with a speech.

We got no speech in Eder Delin.. why didn't Yeesha preach about teamwork or whatnot?

Maybe Yeesha is as tired of giving speaches as we are of hearing them.....lol

This could very well just be Yeeshas way of preparing us for something MUCH bigger that will require three or four ppl to complete. She may just be seeing if we are ready for such an undertaking, thus no speech. If she sees enough ppl can accomplish this simple task she may then throw an age at us that requires MUCH more time and effort from a small group.

POTS I think was supposed to be a multi-player game, maybe they are going to introduce it again or maybe they are writing another set of ages similar to it that requires a small group to complete. This might be Cyans test to see how the comunitee likes multi-player puzzles.

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POTS was never going to be multiplayer. The ages were just what was in the pipeline from when uru live was cancelled and then they were changed from multi-player into single-player ages. From its conception POTS wasn't going to be multiplayer however the ages were.

Sorry for being pedantic, just to remove any confusion.

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At the risk of being labelled the curmugeon here, I have to say that this is the worst ever puzzle. I don't particularly love puzzles as I am more the storyline slash explorer type. That being said, I think a puzzle should be solvable by one person with more people perhaps making it easier. This, however, just outright stinks. Since the Delin age is hood specific, how about all the people that have less than a half dozen members in their hoods? I can't see much purpose in having to scare up several other people just to advance me on my journey, what ever this one consists of.

I do protest. I will not be taking this particular journey, thank you very much.

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Jahuti wrote:

Since the Delin age is hood specific, how about all the people that have less than a half dozen members in their hoods?

The age has been solved with only 2 people.

Also, while the age is hood specific you are not required to go to your own hood's. You could team up with another hood for it.

macnbc wrote:

Jahuti wrote:

Since the Delin age is hood specific, how about all the people that have less than a half dozen members in their hoods?

The age has been solved with only 2 people.

Also, while the age is hood specific you are not required to go to your own hood's. You could team up with another hood for it.

My girlfriend and I (we have our own neighborhood with just the two of us) were able to do it. Though its rough to do lol. Took 1.5 to 2 hours to solve it and able to pull it off once knowing what to do.

On the topic of Yeesha and the Journey in Delin ...


I'm not sure the Journey is provided by Yeesha! Not this one, anyway. There's no Yeesha stamp on the book (IIRC), the cloths aren't the same, and the door's not the same. There's no speech, there's no notes, no nothing.

I am wondering if the Bahro created this journey for us!

Jahuti wrote:

At the risk of being labelled the curmugeon here, I have to say that this is the worst ever puzzle. I don't particularly love puzzles as I am more the storyline slash explorer type. That being said, I think a puzzle should be solvable by one person with more people perhaps making it easier. This, however, just outright stinks. Since the Delin age is hood specific, how about all the people that have less than a half dozen members in their hoods? I can't see much purpose in having to scare up several other people just to advance me on my journey, what ever this one consists of.

I do protest. I will not be taking this particular journey, thank you very much.

I am with you on the "not being able to work it solo" aspect of it. Not real happy about that.

I didn't like the aspect of the puzzle either (but I'm not against multiplayer solving, after all, they already said months ago that there would be places where you MUST have more than 1 person to solve a puzzle, before the Beta even launched on GameTap)

But to not want to do this journey is absurd.

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Many discussions on this abound, and I hope to not be too redundant in my replies on the two forums...

To start, this -is- a DRC approved age, as we got it from them, with a KI mail telling us they were making it available to us. I think the lack of a stamp is a mere oversight after yesterday's snafu in the rush to get the books back out there. Old books were originally used, and new ones had to be generated. There may be some DRC personell swinging by with their trusty rubber stamp any moment now to correct this oversight.

The spiral is not a journey Yeesha has -told- us to go on. It could be a distraction from Yeesha's path by the DRC since they gave us the age. Aside from Gahreseen, the other ages are not DRC approved, and we are told in Beginners Bevin to not use books not DRC approved, and this one -is- DRC approved....

I'm not totally convinced it's from Yeesha, but I'm not entirely convinced that it isn't either. It does add to our Relto, and from what I understood, no one else knew about that age but Yeesha. I could be wrong on that. I would think since it does add a wedge to our Relto Yeesha approves somehow.

The spiral itself reminds me of sparky and the spiral bridge rock. Could they be related somehow? Also, recall where we got the spiral bridge page? The firepit in the desert, in Yeesha's beginning for us. That could have been the clue from her that the spiral cloths were also from her, lack of speech or not. Is it possible as well...Yeesha left a message for us that was somehow altered by the DRC before releasing the age? Could there have been written words that were erased or removed?

The point of the journey could have indeed been to learn to work together, as Yeesha has said in a speech the Guilds in D'ni set them up to become proud and hungry for power. We are all also separating into Guilds/Groups/Hoods. Maybe the point was to show us we will still need to work together, without pride.

It could also be a lesson in patience and timing. Timing is everything, and patience is the true key to the door in my experience lol Those would be big lessons for the proud to learn. Humility in asking someone else for help is also a large lesson for someone who may be proud. Letting us know we may not be able to complete the journey alone.

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Jahuti wrote:

At the risk of being labelled the curmugeon here, I have to say that this is the worst ever puzzle. I don't particularly love puzzles as I am more the storyline slash explorer type. That being said, I think a puzzle should be solvable by one person with more people perhaps making it easier. This, however, just outright stinks. Since the Delin age is hood specific, how about all the people that have less than a half dozen members in their hoods? I can't see much purpose in having to scare up several other people just to advance me on my journey, what ever this one consists of.

I do protest. I will not be taking this particular journey, thank you very much.

I.m with Jahuti on this one. I will socialize a bit, but will only do puzzles on my own. I choose to take the lone path.

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