Provide me with opposing proof, if you have some, but a Town Hall with Dr. Kodama proved that PotS is canon. Many of us (who played Complete Chronicles) have taken Yeesha's shell journey. Notice:

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Q: Has the DRC been to K'veer, and was there any sign of Atrus' time there?
Dr. K: Yes we've been there, as most of you have probably. And yes there is evidence, like his desk.

That was a quote from Dr. Kodama in a Town Hall. Here is a link to another thread that discussed this. I just thought it would be helpful to post this update once again, since I keep seeing posts saying that PotS isn't canon. I think we all need to be clear on this.

And it would be really helpful if a Cyan employee stepped in here to confirm and once and for all put things to rest. I'm not going to use the term RAWA-signal, but...

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This question was more revealing for including Myst V: End of Ages in the storyline. At the time, I believe, the update to the DRC site was fairly recent where they listed 2005 as the year "Yeesha searches for someone to free the Least." We were trying to trick the DRC into making a canonical statement, but not about The Path of the Shell.

To go a little further on EOA, Moke said at another THM, "Myst V story will not be ignored, but it might not fit the way you expect it to. That's all I can really say about that."

Perhaps you are thinking of the Watcher's Sanctuary?

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JWPlatt wrote:

This question was more revealing for including Myst V: End of Ages in the storyline. At the time, I believe, the update to the DRC site was fairly recent where they listed 2005 as the year "Yeesha searches for someone to free the Least." We were trying to trick the DRC into making a canonical statement, but not about The Path of the Shell.

Perhaps you are thinking of the Watcher's Sanctuary?

We went to K'Veer in the Path of the Shell. I know some unnamed person has also gone there in Myst V, but the "as most of you probably have" reveals that Path of the Shell is canon.

I really hope that someone from Cyan steps in to say definitively, but Kodama pointing out that we've all been there... it's more than enough proof for me.

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I don't remember K'veer in TPOTS, and I happen to be going through TPOTS right now just for fun. I do remember going to the Great Shaft. We were also trying to pin down the DRC on the Great Shaft. But as always, they were slippery, elusive, and evasive about it.

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JWPlatt wrote:

I don't remember K'veer in TPOTS, and I happen to be going through TPOTS right now just for fun. I do remember going to the Great Shaft. We were also trying to pin down the DRC on the Great Shaft. But as always, they were slippery and elusive about it.

Cool. Well, hopefully you'll get there soon. So as not to ruin anything for you : (Do not open unless you've finished Complete Chronicles (or Path of the Shell))

You get the room where Atrus was locked in in BoA. I think that's a link from the Great Tree, after you solve a certain puzzle. You can pick up Atrus's shirt and I think it's from there you link to the Myst Library, if my memory serves me correct.

But yes, you definitely make it to K'Veer in POTS. (I think the Great Shaft was the end of To D'ni.)

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The Great Shaft was at the end of To D'ni, but K'veer is in PotS:

After going to the Great Tree in the Watcher's Sanctuary, you link to Myst Library by walking the path of the shell. Then, by using the fireplace there, you link to K'veer.

Oh yeah, you're both right. Silly me. I haven't made it there yet in my current game. It's nice how K'veer and the Great Shaft tie things together so well. MO:UL certainly need these ages. Soon!

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Cyan is still deciding whether POTS is canon or not. The ages will almost certainly be included in the new Live. The puzzles will almost certainly NOT. The storyline is still up in the air as to whether or not we "Actually" did POTS. Don't expect a Cyanist anytime soon, though. They're still figuring it all out from what I've seen.

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I would say that we need to be careful with both POTS and Myst V in saying that any of player of MOUL is the person who experiences either V or POTS.

Until the whole Sharper thing recently, I was trying to make up my mind if POSTS or V would have been part of Dr. Watson's or Sharpers Journey, and the games coming out of what someone discovered about one of their Journeys and made games out of them.
But being someone posted a Nick White transcript suggesting Sharper is on the surface and has talked to Cate, that suggests not Sharper. But it might still be Watson. I think there is some poetry there, either way.

From a meta gaming perspective, I believe the suggestion is that all 5 of the Myst games are the IC Cyan taking artistic license with the DRC discoveries, to get the funding for the original restoration attempt. How any of it really plays into the canon, I don't know if any player can say for sure.
I do believe that other than the Journey thus far, we can only conjecture as to how close to the IC reality the Myst games, POTS and To D'ni have taken us. But then again, that's why we are here.

Whilyam wrote:

Cyan is still deciding whether POTS is canon or not. The ages will almost certainly be included in the new Live. The puzzles will almost certainly NOT. The storyline is still up in the air as to whether or not we "Actually" did POTS. Don't expect a Cyanist anytime soon, though. They're still figuring it all out from what I've seen.

How would we explain Kodama's comment then, that many of us have been to K'Veer? There is no other way for that to be true than if we went there in PotS

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Whilyam wrote:

Cyan is still deciding whether POTS is canon or not.

May I ask how you can be so confident of this? What do you know that the rest of us don't?

I have a feeling the good Dr. Kodama believes that impatient explorers are actively exploring every unopened part of the cavern without DRC approval. He may have just assumed that all of us were there because he found evidence that suggested that one of us was there.

Also, as this is not an IC forum, his statements represented one Digital Actors interpretation of an less than definitive story meeting (even if it was RAWA or GD, it could happen) and he slipped.
Short of us asking Dr. Kodama when we see him next (or a Cyanist doing a little deux ex forum), the statement can be taken as merely a slip in character or a slip of the characters feelings.
We KNOW K'veer is there. We've seen it in Myst. We are looking for it. We are impatient and at least part of the community has gone places the DRC has not yet opened. Glitch or no glitch. The statement is not a binary true or false, it could be interpreted a lot of ways.

RAWA has already said on the DRC forum what is canon, and I've linked to that thread before. Since PotS is to be repurposed (and Ahnonay as multiplayer is in the coming soon photos above), PotS definitely isn't canon.

Also:
Assuming PotS is not cannon, it doesn't mean all of it is scrap. It doesn't exclude that we may have gone about visiting some places, and ended up in K'veer....

Or it could have been a slip of the tongue from Dr. Kodama's part. He's not a perfect guy...
(EDIT: Like butch said... lol. Just saw that)

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Rusty_Russell wrote:

RAWA has already said on the DRC forum what is canon, and I've linked to that thread before. Since PotS is to be repurposed (and Ahnonay as multiplayer is in the coming soon photos above), PotS definitely isn't canon.

Can you link to it again?