Ok heres a theroy. way off in a tangent though

Sirrus might be back, but not as Sirrus. Think about it and how things happened at the end of myst 4 (trying not to put in spoilers).

from the Myst 4 site.

Sirrus: a 47 year old super genius who's able to
keep a detailed view of the big picture in his head
at all times. Calculated and patient, Obstinate to a fault,
his calm exterior hides tons of bottled up anger.
Filed with excessive pride. Terrified of admitting
vulnerablity or showing weakness.

If anyone thats played myst 4 they know about the spirit realm and what it entails. With Sirrus's I beleive his spirit could survive in there for a very long time(with as much hatred for atrus he had) and in time he might be released some how. It would be interesting.
he also was very crazy and obsessed with revenge on anyone that got in his way.
Just a thought.

However, after 200 years, I think it's safe to say he's gone.

Besides, I didn't see the Spirit Realm's "waves" as something pure anger could just "keep at bay." It seemed that you needed to know something about the Realm. Something I don't think Sirrus had.

Bedford wrote:

Wait, that poses the interesting question of where it would lead to, what with
Riven collapsing to Earth age... So this would also collapse to.. itself.
Oh what larks Pip what larks.

It would appear that things gravitate towards their point of origin (Or at least to wherever there descriptive book currently is); being that Rivin was written on Earth, that’s where the pieces went.

If the Earth age were to collapse, it would have to go to...wherever its descriptive book is (or wherever it was written as the case may be). If memory serves, the Earth age was written on the dieing D’ni home world as a place to evacuate to. If that’s the case, we might be in big trouble.

The only things that "gravitated" to Earth were those objects that fell into the fissure. Since the fissure itself was neither necessarily the cause nor a byproduct of Riven's collapsing, I wouldn't say that any collapsing Age would start wreaking havoc on the Age in which it was written.

I think that, whatever this "destruction" may be, it doesn't involve the Bahro. We know little about them, but certainly destroying D'ni is not in their agenda (erm... I might be wrong, anyway!). What will be the role of the Beast People is an interesting question itself.

What I always felt, walking in Ae'gura, is that there is an other side to the city... did you notice all those gates and stairs that lead to an "underground" part of D'ni? The door at the middle of the Great Stairs, all those doors at the Kahlo Pub (which doesn't look like it was originally accessible from the Stairs), the gate near the Kadish Gallery doors, the backdoor of the Museum, the spiral stairs of the Library... I am scared of what could lie in those shadows.

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Trying to put it all together ....

Possible elements involved in the "destruction" that is coming....

Evil. "Evil" implies a sentient being or beings.

Quakes occur in Myst V, which "happens" shortly after Uru ABM.

It's possible that the evil and the "destruction" are related or unrelated. It's possible that the quakes of EoA are related to the "destruction", or unrelated. The "evil" could be related to the quakes, or not. The quakes could have opened up a previously closed area of D'ni in the Cavern. The evil might come from there, or perhaps that is the place to which we must "Find a way". Perhaps we "Find a way" through this new opening to a previously hidden part of D'ni.

This could be an In Character way of explaining a new City environment for the new game engine. Perhaps.

Just my rambling thoughts...

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I like those rambling thoughts!

But I'm not sure that Myst V takes place soon after ABM. I've heard anywhere from immediately after to 50 years later.

Bongmaster wrote:

one of the drc becomes as mad as gehn and goes the same way

just a thought

You know, the rest of the DRC have no idea whats happened to Dr Watson, at least, thats what they say. All I know is that he is the foremost authority on D'ni history and language.

As as for the collapse of an age, I'd had the theory that the Star fissure in Riven was only opened because of the inherent flaws in Ghens writing style, which Katran had made use of to make their escape. I beleave that the Star Fissure is the embodyment of The Great Tree of Posablitys, though which the link between ages is forged. So when an initial link is made it creates a path between the place the book was written and the place the link connects to, where it creates a weak point (notice the Fissure is directly next to the primary link in point on Riven). The reason that anything falling in the fissure lands above D'ni is because it's following the path that the initial link forged, straight to earth.

So basicaly what I'm saying is that if the Age of Earth were to collapse then it would just collapse by means of instablities in the structure of the earth (earthquakes and such). In BoT Aitrus altures a descriptive book to destablise the age, and when Ae'garis linked though he found the ground disappearing into a lava flow. Equally in one of the test ages Atrus had made when trying to fix Riven, he'd made a mistake and the moon on the age was moved closer to the planet causing severe tidal floods.

If however a Fissure opened up on it's own accored, it would likely open in Ae'gera and lead to the dead (or posably burnt up world) of Gatternay (I can't remember wether Gatternay's sun was growing colder of hotter)

Stellaflora wrote:

You know, the rest of the DRC have no idea whats happened to Dr Watson, at least, thats what they say.

Is that with or without "To Dn'i" ending knowledge? I realize that the end may even be stricken fom canon at some future point, but I believe RAWA said that the Xpacks are to be taken as canon until they are specifically removed.

Or something like that. Who knows anymore?

We still don't know where Dr. Watson is, even though we found his journal in the great shaft.

Also, I think I remember RAWA saying that there's a difference between the Age collapsing and the world inside simply becoming less habitable, the difference being that you can link to one and not the other. I'm not sure about that though, so I'll see if I can hunt down a link.

Riven collapsed because its writing was unstable. This is highly unlikely for Earth/Dn'i, as the book is 10,000+ years old, and if there were any unstable areas, they most likely would have shown themselves by now.

A physical problem to the cavern, however, is more feasible. the Age exists, but the place... maybe not so much

Town Hall Meetings 4/26/06 wrote:

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ABguy: So, Phil Henderson, Sharper, and Watson what gives?
...
Dr. Kodama: Sharper is probably excited about the upcoming draft.
Dr. Kodama: Henderson is probably smoking drugs and Watson...no one seems to know.
...
Whilyam: At the liaison meeting the DRC said that Watson's situation was something best left for another time. Just what does that mean? You don't know? You think it is too destabilizing?

Dr. Kodama: If I'm to answer for myself, personally, I'm not sure where Watson stands. I have not spoken to him for some time.
Dr. Kodama: I have attempted to contact him with no luck.
...

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Vormaen: I wanted to know, about Dr. Watson and if you do not want to answer, maybe why the unwillingness to speak about such an important part of the DRC?

Marie Sutherland: Unfortunately, I don't have any information to give about Dr. Watson. I haven't seen or heard from him for two years.
...

Straight from the mouths of the DRC members, they don't know where he is and can't get hold of him.

Qalthos wrote:

Riven collapsed because its writing was unstable. This is highly unlikely for Earth/Dn'i, as the book is 10,000+ years old, and if there were any unstable areas, they most likely would have shown themselves by now.

A physical problem to the cavern, however, is more feasible. the Age exists, but the place... maybe not so much

No problems unless someone with a good working knowledge of D'ni history and language got hold of the Book of Earth in it's secure location in Teranee(sp?)

Found it:

Quote:

From: Richard A. Watson
June 27, 2001

Quote:

What I'm really wondering is if the statement made in the strategy guide is accurate. The guide says that once the Age "dies," the linking panel no longer works. If that is true, then when can an Age be said to have died? Was BoD inaccurate when they linked that one guy to Sedona in the E.V. suit and discovered that the planet had gone nova? Is going nova not enough for an Age to be considered dead?

But there is a significant difference between Sedona and Riven:


Sedona was a properly written Age that happened to have its star explode.


Riven's instability was caused by Gehn's tampering, and was further affected by the mysterious Fissure.


These differences may account for why one Book still worked, while the other did not.




RAWA

Never say never to Gehn. His prison was not your typical prison age. It was a void. A space between worlds. Devoid of light, matter, and yes......even time. There is no end to the possibilities with Cyan, and since a certain Cyanist would not answer my questions about Gehn, I would never put it past them to bring back one of Atrus' worst enemies, his dear father. Since There was never any explanations as to what became of the trap book after Riven crumbled, my guess is Atrus, still unable to make the final decision to possibly kill any life, locked the book away or hid it somewhere he thought no one would find it.

As for Riven and links being destroyed when an age dies, remember that it is not the writer that is creating the age, but the writer creating a link to a possible universe that exists on a strand of millions of possibilities. Where one existance may end because of instability, there are an uncountable number of existances that could mirror Riven, without the instability, still retaining the fragmentation that was caused by instability just because it CAN BE POSSIBLE. Quantum Physics is really a tough subject to go into, but rest assured, we could be returning to Riven in the future if Cyan wills it.

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I think the version of Riven that applies in Uru is probably the one that RAWA gives in his assorted ramblings letter. Gehn is locked in a prison Age somewhere (or dead), not suspended in a timeless black void.