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Post Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:05 pm — Post subject:

kateR the start time is in cavern time (CT) which might be where things are going wrong.

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:25 pm — Post subject:

Rusty_Russell wrote:

kateR I don't know, but perhaps I can put a question in a different way.

At the moment you are having to make a timezone adjustment. CT = MST = UTC - 7, and CET = UTC + 1, so assuming you use what's been worked out elsewhere, you have to add 8 hours to it.

At 2 am on March 11th, MST will become MDT, UTC - 6, so there will be a 7 hour and not an 8 hour gap between Cavern Time and CET.

Two weeks later when CET goes to Daylight Savings, the gap will be 8 hours again.

Does this help?



As I said before, I do not add 8 or any hours, because the calculation is programmed in php and bound to the current time of the server (location: germany), which is set to CET .... and of course that means it currently has an 8 hours shift in relation to UTC-7. Wink


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Post Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:26 pm — Post subject:

Okie dokie. Don't forget Daylight Savings from 25th March then. Smile

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:32 pm — Post subject:

kateR wrote:

As I said before, I do not add 8 or any hours, because the calculation is programmed in php and bound to the current time of the server (location: germany), which is set to CET .... and of course that means it currently has an 8 hours shift in relation to UTC-7. Wink



Even PHP has a method that returns the current time in UTC/GMT. :]

http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.mktime.php


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Post Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:45 pm — Post subject:

Tiran wrote:

Even PHP has a method that returns the current time in UTC/GMT. :]
http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.mktime.php


Yes, that's one of the functions I 've used. Wink

Overdrive wrote:

kateR the start time is in cavern time (CT) which might be where things are going wrong.


... hmm yes ... I am confused ... somehow it does show me correct times in CET but in wrong columns, if I choose display in "caverntime". lol Wink


I guess, we 'll have to wait for Juri1at for clarifiation on this. Perhaps we just do something wrong ?


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Post Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:31 pm — Post subject:

For greater accuracy, try setting the interval to...

15 hours
43 minutes
4.83 seconds

On a hunch that the duration is exactly 13 periods of the D'ni clock, and derived from information at http://www.dpwr.net/archive.php?showarticle=2193


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Post Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:01 pm — Post subject:

Should it be a random match that a whole Negilahn day cycle is exactly 13 "pahr-tah-vo-tee" ? That's interesting, though somehow unbelievable due to two completly different ages with completly different environments, which the D'ni surely could'nt adjust that easy with a finger flick.


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Post Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:17 pm — Post subject:

I've posted elsewhere that the server restart did affect the cycle. Based on a rough guestimate, noon in Negilahn should be in about 8 hours... or ~8:00 Cavern time... give or take 3/4 or an hour either side.

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:55 pm — Post subject:

Haha, now I have understand! It's very interesting how other people see my page.
The problem is the starttime. In both examples you have used the timestamp 03/06/2007 10:28. Well that is the eventtime of Central Europe. If you insert the timestamp in the right timezone (CT ... caverntime) with 03/06/2007 02:28, then all is correct Wink

Well, the idea was the following:

1)
The first 2 datas (daylength and starttime) are information found at the forum, and there normaly the timestamps given in caverntime!
2)
The local timezone is set by the computer.
3)
The result are given in the timezone, wished by the user.

Ok, I insert some dropdown for explicit timezone of the starttime.

Edit: But there is an other point: starttime is, like all timesystems, the timestamp of midnight. Sorry, that is not a good choice for easy usage Sad I will extend this for midnight or a portal-event.

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:15 pm — Post subject:

thx, for clarification, juri1at. Finally, I got it. Very Happy

juri1at wrote:

Ok, I insert some dropdown for explicit timezone of the starttime.


Yes, this would make a lot of sense, since it is a calculator especially for different timezones, and one shouldnt have to calculate into caverntime seperatly. Wink

Just one more question: I am wondering, why the Calculator returns events which did already occur in the past ?


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Post Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:31 pm — Post subject: Timezones

sorry, this has me confused. Embarassed So when can I expect 'lil old me to be able to find a portal down here in Tustin, CA (PST OR GMT-Cool? i Get off work at 6 pm but don't get home and online until 8 pm. Someone please help!

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Post Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:55 am — Post subject:

The modification of starttime (both midnight and portaltime posible) with explicite timezone is done!
Also you can shift the results some minutes for better local adjustment.

For including the daylight saving, please give me some day's Wink

@kateR:

This time the calculator produce all past events, if somebody of our top explorers want check there events of the first days of march.

In the future (maybe next week) the calculator adjust to the actual date automaticaly.

@StarCat79:

1) start the calculator
2) check the 'local timezone' for 'Pacific Standard Time (PST) UTC-8'
3) click at 'show time in' onto the 'local time'
4) look at the first column and read the next event as your local time (it's the time on your watch Wink )

If your PC is well configured (for PST) then the steps 2) and 3) are the default and you have only read the time.

But hurry up, because the next event is in 30 minutes Laughing

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Post Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:18 am — Post subject:

Unfortunatly because the server went down for maintenance, the times changed. None of the prediction times are correct. Although we have the duration, we just need a new start time.

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Post Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:26 am — Post subject:

Overdrive wrote:

Unfortunatly because the server went down for maintenance, the times changed. None of the prediction times are correct. Although we have the duration, we just need a new start time.


Oh no! I hope the timings are not going to be affected by the daylight saving change coming up as well. It breaks the illusion when IC events, with no IC connection to the surface, get rescheduled due to changes at the surface or server maintenance.


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Post Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:40 am — Post subject:

I eat my words. Nothing seems to have changed. I did an eyeball of the window and made the calculations, but it seems it was not on the front edge of the night cycle, but on the morning side.

My bad. Carry on Sad

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