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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:16 am 
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Hello all, an odd request for you - does anyone have a simple black-and-white image of Atrus' circular crest used in Revelation? It appeared on the main menu, the broken vault door to the big gold book-sphere under Tomahna, and on the two prison books, if I'm not mistaken. It's also printed on the discs, but they're too cluttered to extract a complete image from. Any help out there is appreciated!

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:02 am 
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I did find this: http://www.mystwiki.com/wiki/File:TeamRevelation.jpg
Although it's not the best quality (nor is it a "simple black-and-white image"). I'll see if there's any way of extracting a better version of that from the game.

EDIT: There doesn't appear to be. :/

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:58 am 
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Thanks for the link! That's definitely the clearest version I've seen, short of finding the space to re-install the game itself :wink: But I'm pretty sure I can make it work.

Edit - Here's what I've come up with, in case it can be useful to anyone else too.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:06 pm 
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I've always wondered what that symbol was. Is it really his family crest? Where is that revealed? It looks like a bird.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:13 pm 
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IIRC it wasn't actually a family crest but a representation of the chamber beneath Tomahna and the two prison Ages within.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:24 pm 
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Looks like a picture of a woman's ovaries....of course, we all see different things.. :-)

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:55 pm 
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Charura wrote:
Looks like a picture of a woman's ovaries....of course, we all see different things.. :-)
That's nice, now I dare to admit that I'm seeing sth similar ... a baby and mum or one in an embryonic stage ... :D

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:40 am 
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I always figured it was an *extremely* stylized D'ni name mandala that I was too dense to see, so I guess everyone's interpretation varies. Although since it is used mainly around the trap books, and only in Revelation, it may have something to do with them, or perhaps Catherine's experimentation thereon. But I needed something circular to represent Atrus, similar to such devices of Yeesha, Gehn, and all of D'ni, and this was all that came to mind.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:29 am 
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I always thought the mandala in the greenhouse on Tomahna - the 6 leafed flower - was his symbol.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:14 am 
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Aw man, now I'm going to have to look that up :D All this has really made me want to walk around Tomahna again though...

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:29 pm 
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Its technically on the ceiling in the greenhouse in Myst III and over the door to Atrus' study.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:30 am 
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Ah, now I see it. A curious design to be sure, I'd like to get a closer look at it than what Google turns up. I'll probably stick to the prison book logo for the sake of recognizability, but an analysis of the family's various motifs would be an interesting project.

For anyone else curious, here's a shot that turned up (linked to its source on Tumblr) -

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:07 am 
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I think that is just supposed to be decorative and not a family symbol.


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Definitely a possibility. :wink: Although I'd be interested to see if it's used anywhere outside the patio area. As always, Atrus isn't making this puzzle simple.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:40 am 
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Wasn't it supposed to be the "desert bird"? THEORIES! I have them sometimes.

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