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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:39 pm 
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NASA Reported today that voyager has left the sun's Heliosphere. They are not sure whether this is truly interstellar space or just another area of the solar system. It has travelled 11 billion miles.
http://science.time.com/2013/03/20/humanity-leaves-the-solar-system-35-years-later-voyager-offically-exits-the-heliosphere/

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Whatever it is, it's something new and that's exciting. Thanks for finding and sharing the news, Ahlisendar.

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How long now before the Outsiders notice it and offer to sell us a hyperdrive?

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I'd say about a billion years minimum ;)

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I believe we're going to know and experience all this great stuff in our current lifetime already ... :D

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I thought we already had hyperdrive?

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I sat in that seat in Ahnonay,,really...lol... :shock:

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Muttley wrote:
How long now before the Outsiders notice it and offer to sell us a hyperdrive?

Only after we defeat the Cat People...


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Rayhdeeyoh wrote:
Muttley wrote:
How long now before the Outsiders notice it and offer to sell us a hyperdrive?

Only after we defeat the Cat People...

Yes, but for that we'll have to have Orion style nuclear drives available to do double duty as weapons... I'm afraid the ion and chemical drives just won't be enough...

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Let's just hope it doesn't decide to return as V'ger.

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Yes...I think not...
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The Kzinti will always attack before they are ready.

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Robin wrote:
Rayhdeeyoh wrote:
Muttley wrote:
How long now before the Outsiders notice it and offer to sell us a hyperdrive?

Only after we defeat the Cat People...

Yes, but for that we'll have to have Orion style nuclear drives available to do double duty as weapons... I'm afraid the ion and chemical drives just won't be enough...


Actually, ion engines are the best type of interplantary engine, one you're in space. They chug along for a very long time, with a decent specific impulse. And they're harmless, unlike the nuclear-pulse engines... Which are almost certainly banned under the Geneva Convention.


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Robin, the Angels Pencil was propelled by a photon drive, using fusion power. The colonists on board were all the products of a society without war and had no weapons. The Kzinti attacked with an induction heater, thinking there was no danger. One man on board realised the only way out, and taught them The Kzinti Lesson: a reaction drive is a weapon, effective in proportion to its efficiency.

The drive was not a Project Orion type nuclear pulse drive, which makes no appearances in Known Space :)

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Yeah, I know. It's been (quite) awhile since I last read that particular set of stories or spoke with Larry. :wink:

The thing is, we already "sorta know" how to make the Orion drive, which would also be good against planetary targets. The photon drive is more theoretical at the moment. As for ion drives, which we do have, I'm not sure you could focus one down down far enough, even if it had enough power, to do much damage... but maybe.

Com lasers... The big industrial lasers I worked on were dangerous for over half a mile, unfocused, and the military has done some interesting stuff recently, but a communications laser designed for interstellar distances would be good too as a short-range weapon, as Larry also pointed out. It still falls into the catagory of not being a weapon, so you might yet be able to sneak up on them, and I bet I could build one now.

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Robin wrote:
and I bet I could build one now


Oh no!! ...I hear the squealing tires and see the flashing lights in Clarkston...Lol

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