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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:21 pm 
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alright, a friend of mine is trying to figure out what this thing is...

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the engraving says "Victoria Canada" it has a symbol that kinda-sorta looks like a swaztiska but is not. It weighs roughly 4-6 pounds and looks to be pretty old (The metal is worn)... anybody have any clue?

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I'm taking a wild guess here, but I'm going to say it's a knife.

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Ahlisendar wrote:
I'm taking a wild guess here, but I'm going to say it's a knife.

there's no way its a knife. I was thinking a bayonet

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Seems to have a very chunky "blade", so I'm guessing the edges aren't especially sharp. There's no hilt (could be missing), but the end of the tushie looks like it might be meant to hit with the heel of your hand.

First thought was that is might be a tool for splitting wood, but there are probably better things for that (e.g. an axe or wedge and hammer), so other thought was something related to fishing, maybe for chipping ice.

Other big possibility for me is that it's an ornamental object created from, say, a broken broadsword :?

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Seems to have a very chunky "blade", so I'm guessing the edges aren't especially sharp. There's no hilt (could be missing), but the end of the tushie looks like it might be meant to hit with the heel of your hand.

First thought was that is might be a tool for splitting wood, but there are probably better things for that (e.g. an axe or wedge and hammer), so other thought was something related to fishing, maybe for chipping ice.

Other big possibility for me is that it's an ornamental object created from, say, a broken broadsword :?


The edges actually are pretty sharp. I was thinking it might be ornamental but it appears to be all solid one piece--eg never made from two different objects

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To me it looks like a leather working instrument.
My father had one similiar but smaller.

I did some research and it could easily be a metal splicer for rope called a Fid or a Phid.
I saw some pictures that were similiar but not exact.
Most fids are made of wood. Since this is metal, it could have been used for cable.


Very interesting, though.


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It may be reasonable to assume that 'Victoria Canada' implies its origin; Victoria, British Columbia, Canada. Can you provide a clearer shot of the engravings to better see the text and the symbol? Or failing that as detailed a description as possible?

The blade itself is known as a needle point blade, such blades are most commonly found in daggers. While that blade is comparatively wide at the base, the closest approximation I've come up with is what's known as an Arkansas Toothpick; a 19th century heavy dagger.

Let me stress that this is an assumption based on all the information given to me and the research I've found using the given information. I'll continue on with extra research I may have over-looked.

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This is the symbol on the blade, right below the "Victoria Canada"... best i could draw it.

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That symbol looks like a stick figure doing a funny dance, could the "knife" be an native american serimonal blade or is the symbol just "wear and tear". Where did your freind get it?


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Jamie Marchant wrote:
That symbol looks like a stick figure doing a funny dance, could the "knife" be an native american serimonal blade or is the symbol just "wear and tear". Where did your freind get it?


the symbol definitely was engraved, not wear and tear. i'll have to double check but i don't think he remembers where he got it.

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It's certainly no bayonette. There is nothing with what you could attach it to the barrel of a rifle. Not to mention that the blade is too short and broad.
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Other big possibility for me is that it's an ornamental object created from, say, a broken broadsword

Probably made from a broken training sword. The hilt looks a bit like a fakey Celtic or Viking design.


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My best guess: it's a paperweight souvenir from Victoria, modelled after a spear- or pikehead.

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I see a room decorated ... by a guy. :lol:

...and more seriously, I would go for a dagger. Did you buy it from the explorer living in Quebec who produced some crafty daggers some time ago? I do remember having seen a thread with such dagger. He made replicas of the rivenese daggers.

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It does look like a dagger, but may I ask why it appears that the edges of the blade is bent towards the center.
It looks more like a tool of some sort, maybe splicing rope or cable.
I am still looking everywhere and asking around.

It is quite a mystery, and we must solve it.


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