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 Post subject: STACK DUMP.....again
PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:09 am 
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I've tried ten or so times to get this to launch,only to receive a callstack, sorry for my misquote.lol

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Why haven't you posted the call stack then? This thread is useless without it and other details.

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You should submit a ticket to cyan support, with all the info if possible.


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Ok a dummy here, what is the difference between a call stack and a stack dump? I had the stack dump and submitted a ticket.

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No difference.


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A stack dump is the physical process, the game crashing and the error screen with the details of the dump being displayed. A call stack is the data displayed in the error window. It is a list of physical processes, procedures etc that where running at the time of the crash.

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darkstar wrote:
A stack dump is the physical process, the game crashing and the error screen with the details of the dump being displayed. A call stack is the data displayed in the error window. It is a list of physical processes, procedures etc that where running at the time of the crash.


Wrong.

As Tahgtahv said, there is no difference. A call stack/stack dump is a dump of the call stack.

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Well, of course, you are *all* right. ;-) (And sorry for continuing this off topic thread)

For the most part, the only thing a programmer looks at in a dump of the stack is the call sequence. So, a call stack and a stack dump are interchangeable in "computer talk" even though one is more specific than the other.
And, in typical American mangling of the language, a noun is turned into a verb. "Dang! It stack-dumped again!"


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:18 pm 
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thank you Chogon, and pls lets keep our replies kind, and not just


"Wrong"


I hope to contribute to this testing but it is discouraging and disheartening to be dumped on by replies to sincere posts. Lets keep it nice.

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Thanks Chogon for your contribution.

I don't so much object to the curt response but the fact the explanation of why I was wrong actually described the difference I tried to point out.

More importantly I agree with CrisGer, I don't mind being corrected when I get things wrong but please can we do it in a spirit of friendship and understanding.

Can we please put this to rest now and move onto something more productive.

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CrisGer wrote:
I hope to contribute to this testing but it is discouraging and disheartening to be dumped on by replies to sincere posts.

Awww, don't let it get to you, Cris. Maybe this will help. :wink:

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CrisGer wrote:
thank you Chogon, and pls lets keep our replies kind, and not just


"Wrong"


I hope to contribute to this testing but it is discouraging and disheartening to be dumped on by replies to sincere posts. Lets keep it nice.


Thank you for quoting my entire post.

Besides, if I were trying to be rude, you would know it.

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AdamJohnso wrote:
CrisGer wrote:
thank you Chogon, and pls lets keep our replies kind, and not just


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I hope to contribute to this testing but it is discouraging and disheartening to be dumped on by replies to sincere posts. Lets keep it nice.


Thank you for quoting my entire post.

Besides, if I were trying to be rude, you would know it.


Please excuse this post. It and the post it responded to were not constructive to the topic.

However, on the topic, if anyone has any stack dumps, there are members of the community who can trace them (I'm one of them). While Cyan obviously does this themselves, they do not share any details about what went wrong when you stack-dump. We can. I know I'd love to trace a stack dump. Of course, that means I have to actually get those tools out and poke around a bit more, but hey, it's fun. That's why I do it.

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:lol: I have a soft spot for stack dumps. They get a lot of neg publicity - and they're just trying to do their job.

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