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I've never really liked chat logs as the first step in bringing info from the caver to the surface. It seemed so clinical, unpersonal, and it really made feeling immersed hard. When it was done well, it was someone talking about what had happened, and then posting the chat log as something secondary.

I know some of that is just me, and my deep fondness for keeping D'ni 'real' around me... but I think my heart would break just a bit if the city became the place to sit and talk about Cyan's latest move, or who's been using Blender to build an age. They're completely legitimate conversations, but can I daydream that people might grok letting the city live?

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Both forms should probably exist, transcripts for archivers and those who desire them and written accounts for those who don't.

Problem is community is in a state of "truth only" and will only accept it through chat logs.


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I'm so glad that more of you got to chat with Kodama and more of you have posted on the DRC site, now. Awesome stuff, too! :D

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NNNnnnoooooo... Please delete my question about him being to a Relto :oops: :oops: :oops:
I did NOT say it, I did NOT!!! I Promise!! Is there no respect for PRIVACY here for Pete's sake??? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I don't understand the issue. It's a perfectly legitimate question to ask IC. Relto was a gift from Yeesha and the DRC didn't exactly approve, so it's entirely possible that he'd never been to one.

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Cyan are presenting a way for IC to flourish, which is why I've been pushing it because I'd like to see an increase in player stories returning, a way needs to be paved if it ever gets to the point where fan content is added.
Agreed. I see this as an opportunity for us to help facilitate a "changing of the guard" so to speak. Yes, I know that's a scary thought to some, but if the DRC isn't going to be around to entertain us, then why not support the player-created characters? If we want Uru to not just live, but to thrive until Cyan can afford to do something more than just open the cavern, then we need to support the IC players' stories.

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Yes indeed, I think one of the keys about being IC is being vague whilst at the same time not being vague, knowing what points to set in stone and what to leave flexible for others to latch on to and use for their IC stuff, and watching people take these leads and spin something new with them has been entertaining to watch.
As I noted in an earlier post here, it's not easy being the one to start the IC, so I'm truly in awe of those that do. But, it's really fun to participate, so I greatly appreciate those who have the courage to be the first one. Thanks Tweek for helping us to start posting our story on the DRC forum.

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I can't say I really enjoy the confusion that's going on regarding the DRC IC thread.. It looks like we got exactly the opposite of what we were aiming for. We wanted to support the DRC happenings and all the IC talks regarding the Marie/Kodama encounters mostly created confusion, some bickerings and even people suspecting 'priviledged' explorers.
A simple post by Marie/Kodama would clear that up.
Hopefully whatever Cyan has planned for tomorrow will help.


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Tweek wrote:
I'm sorry but the D'niverse is riddled with violence.

Myst - Sirrus and Achenar plunders and kills through the Ages

Riven - Gehn...enough said..

Myst 3 - Hammer Happy Saavedro (Sirrus and Achenar again)

Then we have slavery, Genocide, murders....the list goes on.


Yes, but imply that we as explorers are cold blooded killers (of other explorers) doesn't seem right to me.


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Who says we're not?

from an IC point of view, D'ni would be likely to attract bad people. Kadish vault littered with gold, would some people not be tempted? The Art, a craft that allows for people to play god...that would attract some people.

As Marie said, with great power comes great responsibility.

But then I've been building stuff that deals primarily with humans abusing the Art.


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aloys wrote:
I can't say I really enjoy the confusion that's going on regarding the DRC IC thread.. It looks like we got exactly the opposite of what we were aiming for. We wanted to support the DRC happenings and all the IC talks regarding the Marie/Kodama encounters mostly created confusion, some bickerings and even people suspecting 'priviledged' explorers.
A simple post by Marie/Kodama would clear that up.
Hopefully whatever Cyan has planned for tomorrow will help.


It's not too many people being cranky. Zardoz just hates not knowing what's going on :) If there's anything I've learned, it's that you can't please everybody, ever... and if you try to start pleasing everyone, your path just gets muddled, cause it keeps changing.

I think the fact that we are, essentially, leaking info from a beta (with permission) has got everyone confused. It's not happened before, but I think it's a really good start.

I gotta admit, it's kinda fun watching them squirm ;)


(Edit, unless dadguy gave him permission to paint him as a cold blooded killer, it's a troll.)

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Eleri wrote:
aloys wrote:
I can't say I really enjoy the confusion that's going on regarding the DRC IC thread.. It looks like we got exactly the opposite of what we were aiming for. We wanted to support the DRC happenings and all the IC talks regarding the Marie/Kodama encounters mostly created confusion, some bickerings and even people suspecting 'priviledged' explorers.
A simple post by Marie/Kodama would clear that up.
Hopefully whatever Cyan has planned for tomorrow will help.


It's not too many people being cranky. Zardoz just hates not knowing what's going on :) If there's anything I've learned, it's that you can't please everybody, ever... and if you try to start pleasing everyone, your path just gets muddled, cause it keeps changing.

I think the fact that we are, essentially, leaking info from a beta (with permission) has got everyone confused. It's not happened before, but I think it's a really good start.

I gotta admit, it's kinda fun watching them squirm ;)


(Edit, unless dadguy gave him permission to paint him as a cold blooded killer, it's a troll.)


I agree Eleri I'm enjoying the reactions for the most part But I am looking forward to the reaction when the whole story and access to the cavern is revaled :D


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Eleri wrote:
(Edit, unless dadguy gave him permission to paint him as a cold blooded killer, it's a troll.)


Heheh... Eleri (whom I also met at Mysterium 2009 - Hi Eleri and Blade!), that is funny!

Mystdee, I am like you, anxious for Marie or Kodama to post tonight and for that PLAY tab to go active tomorrow.

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Thought about the translogs eventualy published.
If they are published after de Play tab is altered, maybe it's wise to replace all avie names systematically with Explorer-1 ,2 3 and so on, and make a statement in advance why that is done.

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Exciting event in the Cavern. Just after Kodama left for home, we (Mystdee, HenryMikel, Tai'lahr) had a visit from a Bahro (about 11:51 EST)

[spoiler](02/08 00:07:51) Dadguy: Loud!
(02/08 00:07:53) Mystdee2: awesome!!
(02/08 00:07:55) From HenryMikel in D'ni-Ae'gura: oh oh
(02/08 00:08:06) Tai'lahr: Did you see anything?
(02/08 00:08:08) Dadguy: I heard the link but see no bodies...
(02/08 00:08:13) Mystdee2: no
(02/08 00:08:14) Dadguy: Marie?
(02/08 00:08:16) From HenryMikel in D'ni-Ae'gura: that's a DRC sound
(02/08 00:08:19) Tai'lahr: I heard a bahro, I think.
(02/08 00:08:31) From HenryMikel in D'ni-Ae'gura: it happened before Kodama and Marie
(02/08 00:08:34) Mystdee2: sounded a little like a Bahro scream but garbled some
(02/08 00:08:44) A watchful Bahro calls out.
(02/08 00:09:13) Tai'lahr scans the rooftops...
(02/08 00:09:16) From HenryMikel in D'ni-Ae'gura: Okay {shudder}
(02/08 00:09:36) Dadguy 's hair stands up
(02/08 00:09:59) Dadguy: Who wrote the bahro message
(02/08 00:10:12) Dadguy: the watchful bahro
(02/08 00:10:26) Mystdee2: not me
(02/08 00:10:35) Dadguy: cool
(02/08 00:10:38) From HenryMikel in D'ni-Ae'gura: someone is having fun
(02/08 00:10:46) From HenryMikel in D'ni-Ae'gura: think RAWA
(02/08 00:10:52) Mystdee2: I think it was our signal that the beta is officially over
(02/08 00:11:01) Dadguy: no flyers out there
(02/08 00:11:14) From Tai'lahr in D'ni-Ae'gura: Or one last IC play - just for fun.
(02/08 00:11:27) Mystdee2: maybe but I liked it
(02/08 00:11:31) Dadguy: Anyone in the Pub Mystdee?
(02/08 00:11:41) Mystdee2: wonder if it should go int the IC story
(02/08 00:11:42) From HenryMikel in D'ni-Ae'gura: nope
(02/08 00:11:54) From Tai'lahr in D'ni-Ae'gura: On the roof
(02/08 00:11:57) Mystdee2: nobody in the pub
(02/08 00:12:00) Tai'lahr points
(02/08 00:12:07) Tai'lahr: On the Tokotah roof
(02/08 00:12:25) Dadguy: Oh yeah, I see him
(02/08 00:12:55) Tai'lahr kneels down...
(02/08 00:13:00) Dadguy: He is watchful...
(02/08 00:13:18) Tai'lahr bows
(02/08 00:13:21) Dadguy: There were two link sounds... maybe there's another?
(02/08 00:14:06) Dadguy: That is so cool!
(02/08 00:14:21) Tai'lahr kneels down...
(02/08 00:14:49) Mystdee2: that is so cool!
(02/08 00:14:59) Mystdee2: glad you didn't sleep through that DG
(02/08 00:15:07) Dadguy: Tai, it's amazing that you picked him up...he's so small up there.
(02/08 00:15:10) Tai'lahr: If I remember correctly, kneeling demonstrates to them that you mean no harm.
(02/08 00:15:35) Dadguy: I saw him disappear for a mo
(02/08 00:15:39) Mystdee2 kneels down...
(02/08 00:15:41) Tai'lahr: Maybe if we all kneel, it will respond.
(02/08 00:15:45) Tai'lahr kneels down...
(02/08 00:15:46) Dadguy: He's on the move
(02/08 00:15:54) Mystdee2: he's gone!
(02/08 00:16:01) Dadguy: No to the left
(02/08 00:16:03) Mystdee2: oh there he is
(02/08 00:16:14) Dadguy: I saw him walk across
(02/08 00:16:19) Mystdee2: me too
(02/08 00:16:26) Mystdee2 kneels down...
(02/08 00:16:27) Tai'lahr kneels down...
(02/08 00:16:55) Dadguy: That's the building Kodama stayed in last night.
(02/08 00:17:17) Dadguy: He jumped down now I don't see him
(02/08 00:17:25) Mystdee2: did you see him jump down?
(02/08 00:17:32) Tai'lahr: Yes, I did, too.
(02/08 00:17:37) Mystdee2: I got it on video!!
(02/08 00:17:47) Mystdee2: w00t!!
(02/08 00:17:50) Dadguy: Go Mystdee!!
(02/08 00:18:15) Mystdee2: it was cool but where did he go?
(02/08 00:18:19) From HenryMikel in D'ni-Ae'gura: turn around
(02/08 00:18:26) Mystdee2 kneels down...
(02/08 00:18:46) Tai'lahr kneels down...
(02/08 00:18:46) Dadguy: Hello little fella'
(02/08 00:18:51) Mystdee2 kneels down...
(02/08 00:19:12) Dadguy waves hello
(02/08 00:19:27) From HenryMikel in D'ni-Ae'gura: You scared him
(02/08 00:19:36) Tai'lahr: Or, maybe he wants us to follow
(02/08 00:19:38) Dadguy: I saw him jump to the Term
(02/08 00:19:42) Tai'lahr: Maybe he wants to show us something.
(02/08 00:20:05) Tai'lahr: Do you see it?
(02/08 00:20:27) Dadguy: No
(02/08 00:20:40) Mystdee2: no he must have gone
(02/08 00:20:48) Mystdee2: but I had my video going :D
(02/08 00:21:08) From HenryMikel in D'ni-Ae'gura: He probablt stole the Dalek lol
(02/08 00:21:37) Mystdee2: yo find him Dadguy?
(02/08 00:21:38) Dadguy: I've seen him on that roof before.
(02/08 00:21:46) Dadguy: Nope not back there
(02/08 00:21:53) Tai'lahr: I thought maybe he would come to the memorial.
(02/08 00:22:21) Dadguy: There he is
(02/08 00:22:23) Dadguy: on the roof
(02/08 00:22:25) From HenryMikel in D'ni-Ae'gura: on the roof
(02/08 00:22:26) Mystdee2: that was a treat I am happy he came to see us
(02/08 00:22:37) Tai'lahr: Where?
(02/08 00:22:44) Dadguy: in the middle
(02/08 00:22:44) Tai'lahr: Which roof?
(02/08 00:22:45) HenryMikel points
(02/08 00:22:55) Mystdee2: down on the dock Tai
(02/08 00:23:05) Dadguy: Ferry Term
(02/08 00:23:40) Dadguy points
(02/08 00:24:38) Dadguy: Where did Henry go?
(02/08 00:24:46) From HenryMikel in D'ni-Ae'gura: upper levels
(02/08 00:24:54) Dadguy: Can you see him?
(02/08 00:25:03) Tai'lahr: Yes
(02/08 00:25:08) Dadguy: He's on the move
(02/08 00:25:22) Tai'lahr kneels down...
(02/08 00:25:30) Mystdee2 kneels down...
(02/08 00:25:42) Dadguy kneels down...
(02/08 00:25:59) A watchful Bahro watches.
(02/08 00:26:08) Dadguy: He's watching...
(02/08 00:26:24) Tai'lahr: I feel this is a sign that they'll be watching over us.
(02/08 00:26:40) A watchful Bahro looks at Tai'lahr.
(02/08 00:26:49) Dadguy: He's watching Tai!
(02/08 00:26:51) Tai'lahr feels humbled.
(02/08 00:26:59) From HenryMikel in D'ni-Ae'gura: or edible
(02/08 00:27:20) Mystdee2: yes I believe they will!
(02/08 00:27:20) Dadguy is secretly amused
(02/08 00:27:42) Tai'lahr bows
(02/08 00:27:51) A watchful Bahro calls out, then links away.
(02/08 00:27:54) Mystdee2 kneels down...
(02/08 00:28:13) Dadguy: How cool was that??
(02/08 00:28:16) Mystdee2: He's gone
(02/08 00:28:23) Mystdee2: that was so cool!![/spoiler]

They are watching over us.

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Henry and I spoke briefly to Kodama before the events in Dadguy's log

I didn't start the log immediately as He saw me before I saw him. He started out right away, with I just came to say my goodbyes it is time for me to go back to the surface. I thanked him and asked him to please come a join us again soon then I started the log:

[spoiler](02/07 22:53:23) Chat.log started...
(02/07 22:53:39) Dr. Kodama: I will try to make time for a visit from time to time. It is nice to be here as an explorer with fewer responsibilities.
(02/07 22:54:02) Mystdee2: yes, it is a peaceful place when you can enjoy it
(02/07 22:54:11) Dr. Kodama: Indeed.
(02/07 22:55:34) Mystdee2: Some of the other explorers asked if you had heard anything at all from Cate?
(02/07 22:55:54) Dr. Kodama: I have not. I do not expect to.
(02/07 22:56:11) Mystdee2: Not surprising I guess
(02/07 22:56:40) Dr. Kodama: I'm sure she has moved on to more profitable ventures.
(02/07 22:56:54) HenryMikel: No doubt of that
(02/07 22:57:03) Mystdee2: we are a quiet group tonight. . . .must be that big game on the surface LOL
(02/07 22:57:18) HenryMikel: It's over now Mystdee
(02/07 22:57:34) Mystdee2: I know it's over but maybe the parties are NOT ;)
(02/07 22:57:44) HenryMikel: good point
(02/07 22:58:50) Dr. Kodama: Well, when you see the others, please give them my regards.
(02/07 22:59:10) HenryMikel: absolutely
(02/07 22:59:20) Mystdee2: We will thanks again and rest assured we will treat the cavern with goodness
(02/07 22:59:30) Dr. Kodama: Thank you very much
he walks away and down the stairs. . . .
(02/07 23:00:30) Dr. Kodama kneels down...
(02/07 23:02:07) From Tai'lahr in Tai'lahr's Relto: Shorah y'all!
(02/07 23:02:22) From HenryMikel in D'ni-Ae'gura: Hi Tai
(02/07 23:02:28) To Buddies: Shorah Tai You jst missed Dr. Kodama
(02/07 23:02:45) To Buddies: He came to say goodbye he's on his way back to the surface
(02/07 23:02:45) From Tai'lahr (I'm on the surface, be back in a minute):
(02/07 23:03:52) To Buddies: I guess he stopped at the memorial and kneeled
(02/07 23:04:05) Tai'lahr: Awww, that's sweet.
(02/07 23:04:10) From HenryMikel in D'ni-Ae'gura: He did that last night too
(02/07 23:04:24) From HenryMikel in D'ni-Ae'gura: While I was up the tree lol
(02/07 23:04:28) Tai'lahr: I don't mind missing him. I enjoyed the chat with Marie enough.
(02/07 23:04:47) To Buddies: wb Dadguy
(02/07 23:04:50) From HenryMikel in D'ni-Ae'gura: Look who's awake now
(02/07 23:04:51) Dadguy: Greetings... I missed the Dr.
(02/07 23:05:07) To Buddies: You just missed Dr. Kodama He said to tell everyone goddbye
(02/07 23:05:08) Dadguy: yawn>
(02/07 23:05:16) To Buddies: he's headed back to the surface
(02/07 23:05:26) Dadguy: I have cleaned the evidence. :-)
(02/07 23:05:30) Tai'lahr: OMG, you know what that means, don't you?
(02/07 23:05:41) Tai'lahr: They should be posting soon.
(02/07 23:05:46) Mystdee2: I hope so
(02/07 23:05:51) Dadguy: That's right, Tai...
(02/07 23:05:54) From HenryMikel in D'ni-Ae'gura: not yet - I'm on the forum
(02/07 23:06:05) Dadguy cheers
< insert VERY loud Bahro scream here >
(02/07 23:07:31) Dadguy: Loud!
(02/07 23:07:33) Mystdee2: awesome!!
(02/07 23:07:35) From HenryMikel in D'ni-Ae'gura: oh oh
(02/07 23:07:46) Tai'lahr: Did you see anything?
(02/07 23:07:48) Dadguy: I heard the link but see no bodies...
(02/07 23:07:52) Mystdee2: no
(02/07 23:07:54) Dadguy: Marie?
(02/07 23:07:57) From HenryMikel in D'ni-Ae'gura: that's a DRC sound
(02/07 23:08:00) Tai'lahr: I heard a bahro, I think.
(02/07 23:08:11) From HenryMikel in D'ni-Ae'gura: it happened before Kodama and Marie
(02/07 23:08:14) Mystdee2: sounded a little like a Bahro scream but garbled some
(02/07 23:08:24) A watchful Bahro calls out. ( message from unknown source)[/spoiler]


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