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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:55 am 
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Dr. Kodama made it in tonight! I was alone at first, then with Henry, then everyone present. I forgot to ask why he was chuckling. Next time. Here's the log:

[spoiler=Chat With Dr. Kodama](02/07 01:03:11) Dr. Kodama chuckles to himself.
(02/07 01:05:31) Dr. Kodama kneels down...
(02/07 01:07:00) JWPlatt: Well, hello there!
(02/07 01:07:18) Dr. Kodama: Good evening. Ms. Sutherland promises that you won't bite.
(02/07 01:07:28) JWPlatt: Did you just get in, or have you been here a while?
(02/07 01:07:43) JWPlatt: Heh, I appreciate her assurance to you. Some people wonder...
(02/07 01:08:07) Dr. Kodama: I've been here a few hours. I was catching up with Ms. Sutherland.
(02/07 01:08:09) JWPlatt: I was wondering the same of you, actually. She helpe to allay our concerns.
(02/07 01:09:00) Dr. Kodama: I prefer to stick to the job at hand, usually. But condering I don't have a job down here at the moment, I guess I'm free to relax a bit.
(02/07 01:09:33) JWPlatt: And what is the job at hand now, if you don't have one?
(02/07 01:09:50) JWPlatt: Hang out with the interlopers? Heh
(02/07 01:10:11) Dr. Kodama: Well, it was to investigate whatever tripped the sensors, but that seems to have been settled.
(02/07 01:10:33) JWPlatt: Ah, so what do you think it was?
(02/07 01:10:36) JWPlatt grins
(02/07 01:10:43) Dr. Kodama smiles.
(02/07 01:11:00) Dr. Kodama: Explorers being explorers, I imagine.
(02/07 01:11:12) JWPlatt: We've been looking for those sensors. Haven't found any. We'll keep looking.
(02/07 01:12:02) JWPlatt: Marie explained a few things ahead of you. So now, what can we do for you besides making you investiaget a formerly empty Cavern?
(02/07 01:12:14) Dr. Kodama: They're around. Surprised they haven't been tripped earlier, actually. Maybe Laxman was ingorign those in areas explorers frequent.
(02/07 01:13:07) Dr. Kodama: As long as I'm here, I'm going to stay the weekend. It's been too long since I've visited the Cavern.
(02/07 01:13:14) JWPlatt: You mean like KI idspensors and the link, I suppose. :)
(02/07 01:13:33) JWPlatt: Cool. All wekend?
(02/07 01:13:58) Dr. Kodama: I'll head back up to the surface sometime tomorrow evening, most likely.
(02/07 01:15:23) JWPlatt: I think some have gone back to their rooms for the night already, so that would be great if you are still here tomorrow for chats with everyone else who has been, intrud.., er, I mean visiting the Cavern. They have more questions than I can think of off hand.
(02/07 01:16:02) Dr. Kodama: I hope they aren't actually counting on me to have the answers.
(02/07 01:16:09) JWPlatt laughs
(02/07 01:16:23) Dr. Kodama: We're all just explorers for now.
(02/07 01:16:28) JWPlatt: I assure you, no one ever expects the DRC to have allthe answers.
(02/07 01:16:52) HenryMikel: We just want to be able to stay
(02/07 01:17:10) Dr. Kodama: I don't see a problem with that as long as the Cavern isn't harmed.
(02/07 01:17:29) HenryMikel: That's wonderful news
(02/07 01:18:03) HenryMikel: We'll just have to be more careful around the sensors
(02/07 01:18:13) JWPlatt: Really? Well, that's good news. I think people very much respect this place. That's two votes for and zero against. So far!
(02/07 01:18:42) Dr. Kodama laughs.
(02/07 01:19:24) JWPlatt: Marie mentioned you are all scattered, like we have been, on your own jobs...
(02/07 01:19:42) JWPlatt: Have you been doing anything of note?
(02/07 01:19:51) Dr. Kodama: That is true. We all had to get "real" jobs.
(02/07 01:20:18) Dr. Kodama: Except for Laxman. I think he's semi-retired and busy with family matters on the surface.
(02/07 01:20:49) JWPlatt: This was a real job, and despite the, uh, contention at times, very much considered historic and worthwhile.
(02/07 01:21:32) Dr. Kodama: It was a great deal of work, but did not feel like a job for most of us.
(02/07 01:22:01) HenryMikel: Trust me, you have many fans. Your work is very appreciated
(02/07 01:22:14) Dr. Kodama: Thank you very much.
(02/07 01:22:37) Dr. Kodama: We did the best we could given the circumstances we were in.
(02/07 01:22:53) HenryMikel: Underfunded and underappreciated
(02/07 01:23:10) Dr. Kodama: Too often that is the way of things.
(02/07 01:23:21) JanB: let's hope for the best now
(02/07 01:23:29) Dr. Kodama: I agree.
(02/07 01:24:29) JWPlatt: Now that you know we are here, would you have any plans for the Cavern other than to leave us to explore on our own?
(02/07 01:24:36) Dr. Kodama: I don't know if Enbgerg will ever return. He completely changed carrers. But I believe the others would return if the situation changed.
(02/07 01:24:50) HenryMikel: Excellent
(02/07 01:25:18) JanB: that would be great!
(02/07 01:25:20) HenryMikel: We must find a way to change the situation
(02/07 01:25:21) JWPlatt: I can't imagine Engberg returning without an extremely compelling reason, considering...
(02/07 01:25:36) Dr. Kodama: In the mean time, we may visit from time to time as explorers.
(02/07 01:26:15) Dr. Kodama: Enjoy the Cavern as it is, rather than worrying about repairing everything in sight.
(02/07 01:26:18) Dr. Kodama smiles.
(02/07 01:26:29) JWPlatt: You'd be welcome, encouraged. But then it's not really our to welcome you, is it? It's your work.
(02/07 01:26:46) Dr. Kodama: We didn't have time for much of that before. Stopping and smelling the roses, as it were.
(02/07 01:27:10) HenryMikel: There is so much to see
(02/07 01:27:16) Dr. Kodama: It might be a nice change of pace.
(02/07 01:27:19) Dr. Kodama grins.
(02/07 01:27:37) HenryMikel cheers
(02/07 01:27:39) JanB: and we hop for lots of new things to explore
(02/07 01:28:01) JWPlatt: That's quite a change of context, eh, coming here for vacation? Heh.
(02/07 01:28:17) Dr. Kodama: Indeed, it is.
(02/07 01:29:02) HenryMikel: It's a little lonely now
(02/07 01:29:05) Dr. Kodama: Maybe I'll even get to spend time with a Bahro now that it's not my responsibility to make sure they aren't a threat to explorers.
(02/07 01:29:23) HenryMikel: I'd still be a little wary
(02/07 01:29:35) Dr. Kodama laughs.
(02/07 01:29:38) Dr. Kodama: Good point.
(02/07 01:29:49) JanB: you expect the bahro to be agressive?
(02/07 01:30:05) HenryMikel: They have been mistreated in the past
(02/07 01:30:43) Dr. Kodama: I do not know, JanB.
(02/07 01:31:04) Dr. Kodama: I haven't seen one recently.
(02/07 01:31:40) HenryMikel: Luckily they stay away from the city
(02/07 01:31:48) HenryMikel: They stick to their agreement
(02/07 01:32:49) JanB: they were left alon for quite some time
(02/07 01:35:29) JWPlatt: Mr. Kodama, I'd like to repeat to you what was said to Maria -- that I believe we all hope that whatever you are doing now is providing satisfaction and reward in your lives. And that allowing us to continue to explorer is quite generous of the DRC.
(02/07 01:36:08) Dr. Kodama: Thank you, JWPlatt.
(02/07 01:36:53) HenryMikel: Welcome Chris
(02/07 01:36:59) JWPlatt: Hi Chris
(02/07 01:37:07) Dr CrisGer: hello
(02/07 01:37:10) Dr. Kodama: Good evening, Dr.
(02/07 01:37:13) JanB: hi Chris
(02/07 01:37:31) Dr CrisGer: good evening Dr
(02/07 01:37:52) Dr CrisGer: it is a plesasure to make your aquaintence
(02/07 01:37:57) HenryMikel: Chris... the good doctor is enjoying his visit
(02/07 01:38:13) Dr CrisGer: sir i am very glad you are able to be here...
(02/07 01:38:50) Dr. Kodama: Thank you. It is nice to be back under more relaxed conditions.
(02/07 01:39:21) HenryMikel: We were very afraid we'd be ejected immediately
(02/07 01:39:36) HenryMikel: but the Doctor is very angry
(02/07 01:39:37) Dr CrisGer: Will it be permissible for us to continue to explore and conduct research if we are very careful?
(02/07 01:39:50) Dr CrisGer: ah?
(02/07 01:39:54) Dr. Kodama: I'll find Victor's ejection button.
(02/07 01:40:01) Dr CrisGer: oh dear
(02/07 01:40:08) Dr. Kodama laughs.
(02/07 01:40:16) JanB: oh my
(02/07 01:40:19) Dr CrisGer: uh?
(02/07 01:40:38) JWPlatt laughs
(02/07 01:40:46) Dr. Kodama: Dr. Chris, I don't see a problem as long as the Cavern isn't harmed.
(02/07 01:40:54) Dr CrisGer: Ah.
(02/07 01:40:59) Dr CrisGer: that is a huge releif
(02/07 01:41:03) JanB: great!
(02/07 01:41:23) Dr CrisGer: I have been working on detailed studies of architecture, cultural ecology, timelines ....
(02/07 01:41:30) Dr CrisGer: many years of research now....
(02/07 01:41:36) Dr CrisGer: i was deeply concerned
(02/07 01:42:00) Dr CrisGer: All non invasive...contextural analysis
(02/07 01:42:24) HenryMikel: Doctor, can we hope that perhaps someday others can join us?
(02/07 01:42:48) Dr. Kodama: I'm just an explorer at the moment. But I will defend the Cavern if it comes to that.I trust that it will not.
(02/07 01:43:25) Dr. Kodama: I have no doubt that others will find their way here as you have.
(02/07 01:43:40) HenryMikel: The Call is strong
(02/07 01:44:06) Dr CrisGer: This is such a rare chance to study a disctinct culture almost untouched in its original context
(02/07 01:44:07) Dr. Kodama: For that matter the Bahro are very quiet now, but I trust that they would defend it as well.
(02/07 01:44:47) Dr. Kodama: Indeed. the Call is strong.
(02/07 01:44:50) Dr CrisGer: If we encounter any Bahro what do you advise?
(02/07 01:45:09) Dr CrisGer: Aside from total respect...
(02/07 01:45:11) Dr. Kodama: I hear that they like reeces pieces.
(02/07 01:45:19) Dr CrisGer laughs
(02/07 01:45:21) HenryMikel laughs
(02/07 01:45:22) JWPlatt: Oh my...
(02/07 01:45:25) JWPlatt laughs
(02/07 01:45:27) JanB laughs
(02/07 01:45:35) Dr CrisGer: We will stock up
(02/07 01:46:46) Dr CrisGer: Is the integral structure of the city basically stable enough for more visitation? Larger numbers?
(02/07 01:46:54) JanB: I'll try stroowafels if needed
(02/07 01:47:13) JanB: tent
(02/07 01:47:32) Dr. Kodama: I believe so, Dr. Chris. I think we'll be finding out soon enough.
(02/07 01:47:40) Dr CrisGer nods
(02/07 01:47:58) Dr CrisGer: Dr this is Ethan a collegue of ours
(02/07 01:48:01) JanB: shorah Ethan
(02/07 01:48:03) EthanEver: Uh... hello
(02/07 01:48:07) Dr CrisGer: he is a devoted and very careful explorer
(02/07 01:48:10) EthanEver salutes
(02/07 01:48:16) JWPlatt: What has been your most satisfying success down here, Dr. Kodama?
(02/07 01:48:18) Dr. Kodama: Hello, Ethan. It is nice to meet you.
(02/07 01:48:34) JWPlatt: Shorah Ethan
(02/07 01:48:34) EthanEver: The same... and quite a syrprise
(02/07 01:49:09) Dr. Kodama: JW, that we survived two attempts at restoring this place.
(02/07 01:49:43) JWPlatt: Oh my, yes, I guess that would be it!
(02/07 01:50:44) JWPlatt: Are you a coffee drinker?
(02/07 01:51:21) EthanEver: what brings you down here Dr. Kodama?
(02/07 01:51:28) Dr. Kodama: Not often, JW.
(02/07 01:51:30) JWPlatt: I hear slow perk makes the best brew. ;)
(02/07 01:52:00) JWPlatt: I you know what I mean.
(02/07 01:52:27) Dr. Kodama: I came down at Victor Laxman's request to investigate some sensors, Ethan.
(02/07 01:52:43) HenryMikel: Guess we missed those Ethan
(02/07 01:52:46) EthanEver: Oh, ok
(02/07 01:52:54) Dr CrisGer: Our activity must have tripped them
(02/07 01:52:59) JanB: we dit not trace them yet
(02/07 01:53:19) EthanEver: did not notice where they were
(02/07 01:53:36) JanB: so well hidden!
(02/07 01:53:38) Dr. Kodama: Someone did. I'm glad it was you explorers and not someone with malicious intent.
(02/07 01:53:51) Dr CrisGer: I would have preferred to apply for permits in advance but there did not seem to be any way to contact the DRC directly.
(02/07 01:53:54) HenryMikel: so we can avoid them and not ruin Victor's sleep
(02/07 01:54:42) EthanEver: i was under the impression not too many on the surface knew about this place
(02/07 01:54:58) JWPlatt: Very thoughful of you, Henry!
(02/07 01:55:03) Dr. Kodama: I suspect once he knows that explorers are returning to the Cavern that he won't be as worried when sensors are tripped.
(02/07 01:56:20) JWPlatt: That's positive. What would he imagine? Earthquake? Collapse? Bahro?
(02/07 01:56:38) Dr CrisGer: It could have been tomb robbers or artifact hunters
(02/07 01:56:44) Dr CrisGer: many such unsavory types these days
(02/07 01:56:58) HenryMikel: Better safe than sorry
(02/07 01:56:59) Dr. Kodama: Exactly.
(02/07 01:57:19) Dr CrisGer: Some digs in South America have to have armed guards
(02/07 01:57:35) Dr CrisGer: So our presence does provide a measure of security
(02/07 01:57:45) JanB: we did not spot any diamonds so far here
(02/07 01:58:17) Dr. Kodama: The Cavern has Bahro guards.
(02/07 01:58:21) Dr. Kodama smiles.
(02/07 01:58:37) HenryMikel: The best security yet... the home team
(02/07 01:58:49) Dr CrisGer: Indeed.
(02/07 01:59:29) EthanEver: dr. Kodama, I see you are better camouflaged than me in my yellows...
(02/07 01:59:48) Dr. Kodama: I wouldn't want to upset Yeesha, either, come to think of it.
(02/07 02:00:08) Dr CrisGer: I presume she is still about.....somewhere.
(02/07 02:00:25) Dr. Kodama: Just call me Kodama-chameleon.
(02/07 02:00:35) EthanEver: Last I heard from her she said she had other matters to attend to
(02/07 02:01:30) JWPlatt: Really? That's quite a give for the DRC in general to give credence to Yeesha, isn't it, or am I going back too far now?
(02/07 02:02:32) Dr. Kodama: We know who she is and what she is capable of. We don't necessarily agree with her methods, but respect her abilities.
(02/07 02:03:12) Dr. Kodama: And I imagine she has as strong a bond with the Cavern as we do. Maybe I am wrong.
(02/07 02:03:52) Dr CrisGer: She certainly seems to know ways to use the technology and move about at her will.
(02/07 02:04:26) Dr. Kodama: Dr. Watson knows her very well.
(02/07 02:04:32) JWPlatt: Maria mentioned being concerned that Esher migth be hereabouts, Ethan. That was part of the matters Yeesha was attending to.
(02/07 02:05:02) EthanEver: ah... i had wonderd about that
(02/07 02:05:32) JWPlatt: Turns out it was just us!
(02/07 02:05:50) JWPlatt: Dr. Watson... Hope to see or hear from him sometime.
(02/07 02:06:17) JWPlatt: His last message was to make a home, write ages.
(02/07 02:07:08) HenryMikel: Welcome Dadguy meet Dr Kodama
(02/07 02:07:10) Dr CrisGer: Dr this is another much respected collegue, Dadguy
(02/07 02:07:10) EthanEver: Which we have taken as a very serious suggestion
(02/07 02:07:21) Dadguy: I don't see him.
(02/07 02:07:25) Dr. Kodama: I haven't spoken with him recently. Last I heard he was working from home and enjoying time with his family.
(02/07 02:07:38) Dadguy: Yes, I have... thanks.
(02/07 02:08:16) Dadguy: Now I see you Doctor
(02/07 02:08:59) EthanEver: cool tecnology
(02/07 02:09:13) Dr CrisGer: very useful
(02/07 02:09:19) EthanEver: could use that on surface
(02/07 02:09:32) Dadguy: I hope you are doing well.
(02/07 02:09:44) Dadguy: We saw Marie here earlier tonight.
(02/07 02:10:12) Dr. Kodama: Yes, I spent about two hours catching up with her.
(02/07 02:10:58) Dadguy: Are you two working together again?
(02/07 02:11:29) Dr. Kodama: No. We have been out of touch a while.
(02/07 02:12:21) Dadguy: lease excuse me for dominating the conversation, but will you be returning to the Cavern?
(02/07 02:12:57) Dr. Kodama: I may return from time to time as an explorer, but there is no funding for resuming the restoration.
(02/07 02:13:06) Dadguy: I understand.
(02/07 02:13:30) Dr CrisGer: Did Dr Sutherland seem in agreement that our presence will be permissible given our commitment to being careful?
(02/07 02:13:56) Dr. Kodama: I was telling the others that the Cavern is very different when you're not looking at everything as your responsibility to figure out how to fix.
(02/07 02:14:23) Dr. Kodama: Dr. Chris, I think we both agree on that.
(02/07 02:14:33) HenryMikel: Perhaps this time you can sit back and appreciate your efforts
(02/07 02:14:34) Dr CrisGer: Thank you.
(02/07 02:14:44) EthanEver: do you think you will enjoy exploring better now, Dr. Kodama?
(02/07 02:15:17) Dr. Kodama: It will take some getting used to.
(02/07 02:15:20) Dadguy: There are many explorers that are determined to keep the Cavern alive.
(02/07 02:15:33) Dadguy: Many who are here today.
(02/07 02:15:45) HenryMikel: and to continue your work in opening new areas
(02/07 02:16:38) Dr. Kodama: I am intrigued by the possibility.
(02/07 02:16:54) HenryMikel: if not immediately... maybe in the future?
(02/07 02:17:04) Dr. Kodama: I know how much work it is.
(02/07 02:17:38) HenryMikel: This time you can rest and others can do the heavy lifting
(02/07 02:17:44) Dr. Kodama smiles.
(02/07 02:17:46) Dadguy: We explained to Marie that there are some explorers intent on attempting to write there own ages. She cautioned us....
(02/07 02:17:49) HenryMikel: but carefully
(02/07 02:17:59) Dr. Kodama: bend at the knees.
(02/07 02:18:05) HenryMikel starts to laugh
(02/07 02:18:07) Dr CrisGer laughs
(02/07 02:19:37) EthanEver: Sir, I seem to notice your KI looks different, or are you holding something in your hand?
(02/07 02:20:48) Dr. Kodama: I don't go anywhere without my pipe. It's practically attached to me.
(02/07 02:20:59) Dr CrisGer: Ah ha.
(02/07 02:21:01) EthanEver: ah that's it
(02/07 02:21:46) JWPlatt: Maybe off-topic a little, but you know, there have been reports that a film will be made about the history of this place. I guess that means some word has leaked out publicly. Perhaps if it is a populat film, it might become necessary to resume full operations to either popularize the film, or as a consequence of its popularity. Would that be an exciting prospect to you?
(02/07 02:22:12) Dadguy: Or the DRC?
(02/07 02:23:21) Dr. Kodama: There have been fictional accounts before. Usually there is enough artistic license for those who do not hear the Call to dismiss it as fantasy.
(02/07 02:23:45) Dr CrisGer: Hollywood rarely deals in fact.
(02/07 02:24:19) Dadguy: Dr Kodama, maybe I missed it because I was late arriving, but why are you here tonight?
(02/07 02:24:22) Dr. Kodama: If it brings funding to the DRC, however, I would not look a gift horse in the mouth. I would gladly return.
(02/07 02:24:47) Dr. Kodama: I don't expect that, however.
(02/07 02:25:22) JWPlatt: He's here to bust us! ;)
(02/07 02:25:58) Dadguy: Is that true? Are we out-of-line being here?
(02/07 02:26:00) Dr. Kodama: Dadguy, at the moment I'm just visiting the Cavern as an explorer. After confirming that things were under control down here.
(02/07 02:26:13) Dadguy: OK. Thank you.
(02/07 02:26:37) Dadguy: We are glad to see you, and the DRC. It's encouraging.
(02/07 02:26:44) JWPlatt: Bust may have been an exaggeration. Hehe.
(02/07 02:26:51) Dadguy: :-)
(02/07 02:26:57) Dr. Kodama: Better to check and make sure it wasn't something else.
(02/07 02:27:05) Dadguy: Someone else?
(02/07 02:27:54) JanB: what else?
(02/07 02:27:57) Dr. Kodama: Thanks, Dadguy. I'm a little concerned that it sends the wrong message. That the DRC will be returning with funding.
(02/07 02:28:10) Dadguy: No, we understand.
(02/07 02:28:24) Dadguy: Marie made that clear. It's still good to see you.
(02/07 02:28:47) Dr CrisGer: Just to meet and make contact is very nice.
(02/07 02:29:00) JanB: Sure
(02/07 02:29:05) Dr. Kodama: But a confirmation seemed necessary, despite what some may make of the visit.
(02/07 02:29:15) Dr. Kodama: Thank you, Dr. Chris.
(02/07 02:29:42) Dadguy: It seems like old times.
(02/07 02:30:02) Dadguy: The place seems very stable.
(02/07 02:30:30) Dr. Kodama: I'm very glad that it is.
(02/07 02:30:52) Dr CrisGer: The entire site is in remarkable conditon.
(02/07 02:31:20) Dr CrisGer: The great work you all have done to stablize certainly shows.
(02/07 02:33:18) Dr CrisGer: Well i fear i must start up to the surface, i have been doing long days......and i am not as young as i used to be
(02/07 02:33:19) Dr. Kodama: I'm glad it appears that way. I see a long list of things that were on the list to restore, it's sometimes hard to appreciate all that was accomplished.
(02/07 02:33:25) JanB: i have to go for the moment some other things to do now
(02/07 02:33:27) Dr CrisGer: :)
(02/07 02:33:29) JanB waves hello
(02/07 02:33:55) Dr. Kodama: I should turn in as well. I'm staying in the Cavern for the weekend. I may see some of you tomorrow.
(02/07 02:34:04) HenryMikel: I hope so
(02/07 02:34:05) Dr CrisGer: Look forward to it.
(02/07 02:34:14) Dr CrisGer: Thank you for this discussion Dr.
(02/07 02:34:15) HenryMikel: Thank you for your time
(02/07 02:34:16) Dr. Kodama: Have a good night.
(02/07 02:34:24) HenryMikel: and for all your good work
(02/07 02:34:30) Dadguy: Staying down here? I'd like to see some of the accomodations sometime.
(02/07 02:34:39) Dr CrisGer: :)
(02/07 02:34:50) Dr CrisGer: thank you sir
(02/07 02:34:59) JWPlatt: Thanks for your time this evebing, Dr. Kodama, and nice to have you stay a bit.
(02/07 02:35:05) Dr. Kodama: nothing fancy. but they're good enough.
(02/07 02:35:07) Dadguy: A few of us will be returning tomorrow. Hopefully we'll connect again. :-)[/spoiler]

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JW Platt wrote:
I forgot to ask why he was chuckling.


Perhaps he was just happy to be back

or

When he first linked in you were in AFK mode by the tent and, errrrr, some one else was across from youy atop the dead Great Tree stump in a very OC position to say the least. :oops:
Kodama went down to the Memorial and knelt down. And some one used the opportunity to link out and back via the Alley Nexus.

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I would prefer that we not post the chatlogs at the DRC just yet. For two reasons: to extend and build up the anticipation as long as possible and also to allow those who weren't really there an opportunity to play along and maybe even claim that they were.

What I would suggest is that anyone who wants to, post their experience and maybe relay something that Marie said. She said many things and mostly things that Cyan would like for us to convey to others (DRC still not funded or returning anytime soon; explorers returning at their own risk, etc.). The more of us that post her words in our own words, the better those ideas will be reinforced.

The chatlogs can always be posted later, after the cavern opens for real.

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I would prefer that we not post the chatlogs at the DRC just yet. For two reasons: to extend and build up the anticipation as long as possible and also to allow those who weren't really there an opportunity to play along and maybe even claim that they were.

What I would suggest is that anyone who wants to, post their experience and maybe relay something that Marie said. She said many things and mostly things that Cyan would like for us to convey to others (DRC still not funded or returning anytime soon; explorers returning at their own risk, etc.). The more of us that post her words in our own words, the better those ideas will be reinforced.

The chatlogs can always be posted later, after the cavern opens for real.


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I agree partialy. It is good for us to express our experiences in our own words for Cyan clearly wants us to continue the story on our own for now though they will help at times with the DRC appearences as is going on now. Also it is good for us to convey what the DRC are telling us.

As for people writing themselves in the events I dont see the point of that immediatly, i will think it over some more, but for now, this is actually what is happenning for many reasons, not the least of which we are testing the piopulation limits so it is part of the testing progression. Part of the problem of the IC storylines so far is that some of them have not reached people or seemed valid for some of them included elements that were so extreme or so removed from the real and essential nature of the D'ni URU story as to be totaly unbelievable. For the player created story generation to be believeable i think it is essential for now that we stick with the truth and what is actually happening. This does not mean that anyone and everyone certainly has equal right to spin stories based in the URU D'ni world but there is a canon and a real story line to be refered to and sources (RAWA, the texts, the archivists Guild, the knowledgable people like Tweek, and many others who are steeped deeply in the real story) to be referenced. that is my concern about delaying sharing the actual conversations. As almost everyone has agreed to be revealed for this purpose, i may consider posting excerpts of the actual logs fairly soon, but we will see how it goes.

My thoughts are shared here as we are by Cyan choice being included in this transtion and not trying to take advantage of our privledged position as testers. It was their choice to include us in this way and so we are meant to be here. For that reason it is doubly important for us to help build a future that is connected to the past, and a line of evidence that is as real las possibly can be in a virtual world based on a deeply crafted back story.

These remain my own opinions and thoughts and as equal explorers in an equal world of Cyan's making, I felt it useful to share them, take what you like and agree or disagree with the rest :)

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Great post on the DRC site, Mystdee! :D

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This does not mean that anyone and everyone certainly has equal right to spin stories based in the URU D'ni world but there is a canon and a real story line to be refered to and sources (RAWA, the texts, the archivists Guild, the knowledgable people like Tweek, and many others who are steeped deeply in the real story) to be referenced. that is my concern about delaying sharing the actual conversations. As almost everyone has agreed to be revealed for this purpose, i may consider posting excerpts of the actual logs fairly soon, but we will see how it goes.

I firmly disagree. Every explorer has the right to tell their own story. Hopefully, they'll try to stay within canon and not conflict with other stories. But, if they do, well, then maybe they'll be considered liars or crackpots, but that's their choice to make.

Tweek is not exceptional just because he has access to this section. There are others who are capable of weaving their story into what is going on without conflicting with the "real" story as it has happened for us. Please, please allow them that opportunity.

Additionally, as it stands right now, people are still not quite sure if it's real or not. IMO, it's like the days leading up to Christmas and the anticipation of opening the presents is building every day. Posting a chatlog would be like opening that present and then having to wait to use it. Although the Play button is scheduled to be updated on Monday, we don't know what it will say. It might still be days or even weeks before others can join us. Please don't spoil this time for them.

Edit: Here is the kind of fun speculation I would like to see them enjoy for as long as possible.

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Thanks Tai :D


You know, we need some of the people who spoke to Marie that they don't see as Cyan tied to speak out I think. . .they don't believe we are really there LOL ;) But I do like the speculation :lol:


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I like and supoprt Tai's idea of posting the chatlogs at some later date, after everyone has a fair chance to play.

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I've noticed the discussion on the public MOUL forum, and it looks lifeless. The problem is, for the most part, the folks have heard for two years stories of visits to the Cavern. This is just another one... make believe banter.

Unless you post some chat logs you'll:

1. Lose excitement
2. Miss the messages that Cyan wanted to send (we can tell them in posts all we want, but many if not most glance and say "pretending")

I disagree with Tai, that posting this story's chatlog takes away any "rights" to tell a story from other explorers.

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Tomorrow, everyone will know the truth of it. ;)

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I see a whole lot of activity in this forum here, much speculation and excitement. And, hey, it only needs to last until tomorrow when the Play button will be updated. Then, they'll know for sure what's going to happen.

Also, I might point out that some have speculated about a closed beta and one person (Walt) who was in previous betas has worried that perhaps he has been "blacklisted" because he wasn't included. To confirm our status through a chatlog at this time can only cause hurt feelings. And, I agree with Mystdee; we need more people from here to post - even just a little tidbit - so they can see that it's not some Cyan-inner circle thing.

Btw, dadguy, you did a great job of initiating our portion of that IC play. It really helped me to get mine written. The hardest part is getting started, but between you and Tweek, it became very easy to just play along. Thanks for that!

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Yes, the suspense isn't going to need maintained for any length of time.

This is going to have hit the community as a bit of a bolt from the blue; many will still be trying to make sense of what's happening, and we do see a bit theorizing going on, and I think the excitement is still building. There are people coming back to the forums over the past 24 hours that haven't been around for many months. Word gets round, but for some it'll take longer for that word to reach them.

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In the the past, such things happened with a much slower build-up. Weeks and months of little things adding up while the fans simmer. And things, I assume, went along a master story plan mostly regardless of what the day's reactions were like because there was a vision to follow. This build-up is warp speed in comparison and the reason, we can reasonably assume, is because it's just to explain IC the official shard coming back up as best as possible with what resources Cyan has at hand. Then it's just there for everyone. So I think one day of wait is fine. ;)

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As for people writing themselves in the events I dont see the point of that immediatly, i will think it over some more, but for now, this is actually what is happenning for many reasons, not the least of which we are testing the piopulation limits so it is part of the testing progression.


Forgive me for picking apart your post but there were several things here I wanted to address.
As for people writing themselves into events and not seeing the point of it, that isn't really something you would see the point off as you are not those players. I can tell you for a fact that some of the IC players in the community have long drawn out storylines planned, heck the stuff I've been running at Beneath started back in 03 and is winding up with the release of my Ages, that's a 7 year storyline right there.

Secondly, people want to be in the cavern with you guys, if they can write IC situations where they feel involved who are we to deny them that?

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IC stuff hasn't reached people because IC took a dive. In Prologue the IC aspect was high, a lot of people were involved, with the introduction of UU is introduced a very OOC aspect, with funny skin colours, turning the arch upside down etc. UU was around for a long time to this OOC mentality set into a large part of the community, with MOUL IC was hard with the OOC mentality and with Episodic content (which greatly disrupted the flow of storycrafting) and the fact that the characters didn't interact with players like they did in Prologue (in MOUL is was more of a stage show).

Cyan are presenting a way for IC to flourish, which is why I've been pushing it because I'd like to see an increase in player stories returning, a way needs to be paved if it ever gets to the point where fan content is added.

Now I agree that some of the IC stuff is hard to swallow and a little out there. Speaking for myself I do a lot of research into certain items I introduce, seeing if they fit with the lore and with the more outlandish ideas I consult others in the community and try to contact Cyan about it (usually with no reply unfortunately), but I do work hard to make sure it fits (even the weirder elements like the floating water in my Age Sul is based from stuff set down in Riven).

I don't think it is essential to stick to truth at all, for player content to be believable it needs to be set to the lore and canon set down regarding D'ni already and tying it into events that actually happened will help give it some bases in fact too.

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This does not mean that anyone and everyone certainly has equal right to spin stories based in the URU D'ni world but there is a canon and a real story line to be refered to and sources (RAWA, the texts, the archivists Guild, the knowledgable people like Tweek, and many others who are steeped deeply in the real story) to be referenced. that is my concern about delaying sharing the actual conversations. As almost everyone has agreed to be revealed for this purpose, i may consider posting excerpts of the actual logs fairly soon, but we will see how it goes.

My thoughts are shared here as we are by Cyan choice being included in this transtion and not trying to take advantage of our privledged position as testers. It was their choice to include us in this way and so we are meant to be here. For that reason it is doubly important for us to help build a future that is connected to the past, and a line of evidence that is as real las possibly can be in a virtual world based on a deeply crafted back story.

These remain my own opinions and thoughts and as equal explorers in an equal world of Cyan's making, I felt it useful to share them, take what you like and agree or disagree with the rest :)


I don't see anyone taking advantage of their positions here Rawa has acknowledge some of us still run IC, I pm'd Rawa and he said that I can be outed in the DRC stuff, I was also asked by one of the testers here to post on the DRC forums about Marie's visit and I agreed.

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Great post on the DRC site, Mystdee! :D

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This does not mean that anyone and everyone certainly has equal right to spin stories based in the URU D'ni world but there is a canon and a real story line to be refered to and sources (RAWA, the texts, the archivists Guild, the knowledgable people like Tweek, and many others who are steeped deeply in the real story) to be referenced. that is my concern about delaying sharing the actual conversations. As almost everyone has agreed to be revealed for this purpose, i may consider posting excerpts of the actual logs fairly soon, but we will see how it goes.

I firmly disagree. Every explorer has the right to tell their own story. Hopefully, they'll try to stay within canon and not conflict with other stories. But, if they do, well, then maybe they'll be considered liars or crackpots, but that's their choice to make.

Tweek is not exceptional just because he has access to this section. There are others who are capable of weaving their story into what is going on without conflicting with the "real" story as it has happened for us. Please, please allow them that opportunity.

Additionally, as it stands right now, people are still not quite sure if it's real or not. IMO, it's like the days leading up to Christmas and the anticipation of opening the presents is building every day. Posting a chatlog would be like opening that present and then having to wait to use it. Although the Play button is scheduled to be updated on Monday, we don't know what it will say. It might still be days or even weeks before others can join us. Please don't spoil this time for them.


Yes indeed, I think one of the keys about being IC is being vague whilst at the same time not being vague, knowing what points to set in stone and what to leave flexible for others to latch on to and use for their IC stuff, and watching people take these leads and spin something new with them has been entertaining to watch.


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