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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:25 am 
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I think that's a fair and interesting point you bring up. It makes sense to me to say modders (I've come to accept Hackers as the proper meaning, but saying modder is definitely more likely to please others).

And as a wonderful example of media skewing the definition: Oil and gas Corporations Targeted by Hackers

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:53 am 
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*wakes up*

So since this seems to be the URU modding ok/ not ok opinion thread I thought I might toss my two cents in :)

I have seen URU in a wide variety of flavors since I started playing Christmas '03. I just missed the original Live but saw all the internet energy surrounding it. I was very involved with UU throughout most of its existence and was a holder of an infamous adminKI for a large part of it. The biggest difference between now and then is Cyan. UU was shard based. The owners of the shards and the admins that ran them could do pretty much whatever they wanted whenever they wanted. If you didn't want to be around 'hacks' you could choose a shard that didn't do them. Now we have one big "shard" and this causes people from all walks and opinions to be in the same place.

I think Cyan is going about this the right way. There is a large percentage of the URU crowd that in the absence of new content that thrive off just anything 'new'. So the opportunity to let those who know the tricks of the trade with "hacking" URU to provide entertainment I think is great.

So far, I have yet to see or hear anything that hasn't already been done at some point in the last 8 or so years that I have seen of URU. That being said I am not trying to take away from anything the 'grey hats' are doing, there are lots of people who are new to URU and the 'hacks' can be quite fun to old and new members alike.

I think that it is important that the wishes of those who would like to not see a green sky'ed city should be respected also. I think that Cyan confining the the 'hacks' to a couple hoods solves this problem. If you don't like it. Don't go there. I can totally relate though. URU is a beautiful game and when you are not wanting the intrusion, suddenly having textures drawn off or a giant cone statue appear can be quite a detraction from that beauty.

'Elitism' has always been a problem or a perceived problem all throughout URU's existence. It will always be there in some way, shape, or form. Hackers or not, people will always find something to complain about if someone else has something they don't. As long as the Grey-Hat thing doesn't get out of hand I don't really see a problem. If a person really wants to get involved I don't think there is anything stopping them.

Basically the point I am trying to make is, this has all happened before. If people respect each others views and feelings about IC/ OOC and modding I don't see any of this as negative. If attitudes start forming and toes get stepped on, people will once again get bitter and/or feel left out.

So everyone play nice! and happy URU'ing.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:03 pm 
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Haha... 'wakes up'... lol... Hi, weldergeek, nice to see you posting here... /waves... :D

You have good points here, taking account of almost everything and everybody...
I have to say, in general, that YOU as a specialist, a super genius, or spoken in
Thend's terminology, as an UBER URU specialist haha, knowing Uru inside out,
along with a'moaca, Ashtar etc., for you this might all be peanuts lol, but for us this
is still fascinating, even after all those years, but you've got it absolutely simple and right

weldergeek wrote:
'Elitism' has always been a problem or a perceived problem all throughout URU's existence.
It will always be there in some way, shape, or form. Hackers or not, people will always find something to complain
about if someone else has something they don't. As long as the Grey-Hat thing doesn't get out of hand I don't really
see a problem. If a person really wants to get involved I don't think there is anything stopping them.

Basically the point I am trying to make is, this has all happened before. If people respect each others views and
feelings about IC/ OOC and modding I don't see any of this as negative. If attitudes start forming and toes get
stepped on, people will once again get bitter and/or feel left out.

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