Whilyam wrote:
Now, true, I can't remember if that quote referred to an individual or a company. I wouldn't be surprised if the post had been lost in one of the topic-splitting moderations going on here.
Sure, blaming the mods is the easiest way.
Whilyam wrote:
I think the source of the confusion needs to be sorted out before accusations get thrown around.
Agree!
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Nalates wrote:
In the Mysterium video Rand talks about the hold up. (last 30 min +/-) Cyan used plugins in the development software and in the runtime game. Those have to be removed as they are not Cyan made but licensed from 3rd parties.
I suspect that some just made some tasks faster during development. Others are likely code that gets embedded in the game. Knowing what those plugins do, why and how to work around them likely needs some explanation. Apparently there is one person that knows how to do that. I think it kinda explains the 'something else' too. However he did seem open to having others help with the work, thus Whilyam's posts for volunteer coders to help.
I found it interesting that Rand still would like Cyan to run the servers. But, he seemed clear that is dependent on circumstances.
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Rand: We ah, we, lets see here, We're rolling down the, ah, I'll make a story out of this...we'rechugging down the open source path because we don't really have anything else to do, and we're hoping for things to do because we've laid off people we don't have any income and we need kind of money and then this other deal came in where people said well hey, we'd kind of like you to use your engine and do this stuff for us, and suddenly Mark DeForest who was the engineer of the Open Source Train, choo choo -[makes pulling whistle cord motion], suddenly got involved in other things and we have our plans laid of what we need to do, and some of it is just technical, we'll pull certain things out that are, that we’ve licensed that we can't just let the public use and we have to, we have plug ins that we have to be careful with letting out, and we’ve got a plan about how to do it but suddenly Mark DeForest was engaged in money-bringing-in-work so that took priority, so we still have no other plans other than to do Open Source and like to move it out there, this time we are thinking we want to do
something a little different... boy its been a while since we did all of this, ..but it’s… we’d like to run the server, or run servers, and, but still have Open Source where people are able to build stuff and adjust stuff but We'd be more the keeper of it. mm. and see where that goes, cause it seemed like that might be a cool way to do it that way, we'd keep things going but its still passing thru a filter, m, but anyway that’s the plans, and as soon as really we run out of work we will get back on that.
The text you can find here: text transcript of the Rand Q and A and the Panel Discussion at the 2009 Mysterium Town Hall at Cyan HQ
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I hope this ends the confusion.