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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:00 am 
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I just scored my biggest pellet...1015.

What's your fattest?

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I...didn't think that was possible. *goes off to check the pellet formulas *


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:28 am 
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What formula were you using?

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Occasionaly the system burps and gives you an anomolous pellet value above 1000. This is a bug. The calculations cannot give a value above 1000 if they work right.


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I thought it calculated a batch value, and then individual pellets were given a random modifier above or below that, meaning a top-tier pellet could end up above a thousand, but you'd have just as much chance to get an outlier low score as well. Meaning that the value you want isn't the pellets themselves, but batch averages.


But I never actually studied the exact formula, myself...

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To the best of my knowledge, the maximum pellet value that can be created is worth 1000 KI points. The actual score you receive is modified by reducing the value from 0% to 5%. That means if you have one of the recipes that should give you 1000 points, your KI may only display 950-1000. I am familiar with how Er'cana pellet values are calculated in PoTS/CC. If there is a difference in MOUL in how the values are determined (other than the break points for the tester indication), I am unaware of it. I cannot account for scores above 1000 (and I received at least two of those in MOUL, none in MOULa... yet).
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I used 30 30 30. The total for all five was 4944. I regularly total over 4800. You can see my totals on the URU Forever Bevin imager.

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johnsojc wrote:
Occasionaly the system burps and gives you an anomolous pellet value above 1000. This is a bug. The calculations cannot give a value above 1000 if they work right.


Nah, I prefer to think Romer is just THAT GOOD :lol:


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I don't remember the exact formula that gave good pellets, but I do seem to remember that
[spoiler]one of the ovens by the front door was weak and had to have a different setting.[/spoiler]
Does anyone have the GOOD formula?


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Hi, Rik. here is the original Er'cana pellets thread from 2007. The answer is in there.


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There are many different formulae to give max value pellets. There are two recipes that max out with all ovens set the same:
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29.5 - 29.5 -29.5 2 hours, 57 mins (There are 100 detents on the slider, each .5 of a small division)
30 - 30 - 30 3 hours
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The fastest recipe (I have found) requires oven 4 to be set differently from the other 3. The oven numbers can be determined from the number in the control room that turns the oven/mixer on and off:
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Oven 4 - 19.5 - 50 - 19.5 1hr 57 min
Oven 1,2,3 - 19.5 - 50 - 50
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Wow, that's cookin'!

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I'm still not sure I understand all of this. Under the assumption the ratio of 40/30/20 is like Fertilizer NPK numbers (nitrogen (N), phosphorus (P) and potassium (K). I have no idea what the lake algae lives on. :?

My first idea so far was the problem of 5 pellets from 4 ovens:

[spoiler]Bahro ratio 40/30/20 X 5 pellets = 200/150/100, so I divided this ratio between 4 ovens and got 50/37.5/25. My Pellet average for a batch of 5 was 761.6. But still the meter indicator only read 80%, same as just using 40/30/20 per oven. Which averaged 475.8 per pellet. I deffinatly got an increase in values per pellet. The light output and meter reading seemed the same, maybe the light hung a bit longer.[/spoiler]

But I really dont know what I'm trying to do.Get higher pellet scores or meter levels? I can change one but not the other.

(EDIT) Of course not being able to see the meter in first person might be a problem also? I only saw it drop one time when I had duds.

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The exact workings of the pellet manufacturing facility are a mystery. Probably only some obscure, unemployed DRC Restoration Engineer has any clue how they work but I have my own pet theory that lets me rationalize everything.

Re: 4 oven controllers and 5 pellets: Since there are 4 mixing vats outside, I speculate that there are 4 basic mixtures that go into making the pellets hence 4 independent oven mixer control stations... one for each vat. Each control can be set to optimize one of the 4 ingredients.

Re: Oven settings: There are pictogram clues of what each slider sets. Time, amount, and temperature. They have nothing to do with chemical mixture.

Re: 5 pellets from 4 oven controls: I think of the ovens separately cooking the 4 ingredients into a slurry that is forced through the piping when you press the blue button. The 4 slurries are mixed (spinning action of the pellet dispenser) and compressed into the 5 pellet cakes we collect.

Re: Since one tank was already empty when we arrived and we may have drained two more, why do the ovens still work: There are probably underground tanks of processed ingredients that we cannot see that hold ample amounts of raw ingredients for our continued production of more pellets.

This works for me. :D

For the silo tester you are trying to hit 60% of scale (Bright orange pellets). 100% of the tester scale indicates a pellet that produces a large explosion.


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