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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:57 am 
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Hi all, I'd like to gauge interest of the players, in having two new public areas in Uru, and, hopefully, how much cold hard cash they'd think would make it worthwhile for Cyan to go and implement it.

Note: to implement it, it will not require art-design, as these locations have been around since prologue.

So, without further ado:

Would there be any real interest in new link in the City links in the nexus, with Bevin, (as in the "real" Bevin, by "the "real" Bevin" I mean the first location explorers other than the DRC visited, in D'ni. I do not mean "oh, just another public hood", I mean the real D'ni neighbourhood, named Bevin. ) and Seret, the second of the neighbourhoods visited by explorers, ever, in D'ni.

The art for these locations are stored in the Neighborhood_District*.prp files in the dat/ folder.

Now, this would possibly also require the renaming of all the "bevins" to Hoods, or whatever, Cyan has already said this is going to happen, so the question of "is renaming all the bevins to Hoods a good idea?" isn't the topic of this discussion, however, if you think it means more money would need to be donated for the man hours involved, then go ahead and comment on that.

@ RAWA Chogon, et al, would you consider this, and how much money donated with this purpose would make this worthwhile?

I know a bunch of people would really like this, and with the other little changes you guys have been doing, this would make people quite happy. Little things, low expectations, I know, but, I'd hope you'll at least comment on it, in public. =)

On that note, I also have textures for a possible shirt, if you'd consider that, too, it is based on Cyan's own short sleeve t-shirt, and the 2003 contributor logo, as well as the guild logo.

http://ebonrai.com/moulagain/dni-contrib-plainsvg.svg <-- SVG of the logo.

http://ebonrai.com/moulagain/dni-explor ... 12x512.png <-- 512x512 of the logo

if for some reason you need a 600dpi image of the logo, here you go: http://ebonrai.com/moulagain/dni-explor ... 600dpi.png

1024x1024 - http://ebonrai.com/moulagain/dni-explor ... 4x1024.png



Now, I have two versions.

-Tintable version-

no arm texture, for this version, as Cyan has that, themselves.

Female:

http://ebonrai.com/moulagain/ftorso-dni ... ntable.png

and here's the tint-mask for this.

http://ebonrai.com/moulagain/ftorso-dni ... e-tint.png

Male:

http://ebonrai.com/moulagain/mtorso_dni ... ntable.png

tint mask

http://ebonrai.com/moulagain/mtorso_dni ... e-tint.png

Icon:

http://ebonrai.com/moulagain/icon_utors ... ntable.png


-Cream Version (my personal favourite)-

Female:

http://ebonrai.com/moulagain/ftorso-dni-explorers.png

Male:

http://ebonrai.com/moulagain/mtorso_dni-explorers.png

Arm:

http://ebonrai.com/moulagain/mtorso_dni ... rs-arm.png

Icon:

http://ebonrai.com/moulagain/icon_utors ... lorers.png

EDIT: Mods, please do NOT move this thread, as this is NOT related to open source myst online.

Also, Cyan, you have permission to use these textures as you see fit.

EDIT: I've discovered the origins of the logo I used to make the shirt, or at least the original logo.
Many thanks to Deledrius! You can find the links to the originals, here:
http://uru.zero-factorial.com/images/gu ... uilds.html

My apologies for not discovering this sooner, and thanks to Deledrius for both poking me, and making the original logo. =D


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Thumbs up for this idea! I'd love to see more public areas in the Nexus, and having Bevin and Seret there would be awesome. :-)

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I would love to see this as well, and if the files are still there then it's very possible.

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I have a few questions about hoods in prologue.

1) Was the Bevin shown in "To D'ni" supposed to be the Bevin from Prologue or another hood? There are names on the visitor log which may help the memory of those who were around back then.

2) Also, for those who were there, were Bevin, Seret, and the other early hoods still available right before the 2004 shutdown or did they dissapear before then? Were they in the public links or another list?

3) Did the early hoods have the nexus books placed in terminals that let you insert your KI to add the link (as in beta video clips and in "To D'ni")?

4) Were the "DRC Neighborhoods" around back then or was "Until Uru" their first appearance?

5) Did Cyan name any of the hoods created after Seret?


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EccentricOne wrote:
I have a few questions about hoods in prologue.

1) Was the Bevin shown in "To D'ni" supposed to be the Bevin from Prologue or another hood? There are names on the visitor log which may help the memory of those who were around back then.


Seret, etc, date more from Choru, rather than prologue. =)

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2) Also, for those who were there, were Bevin, Seret, and the other early hoods still available right before the 2004 shutdown or did they dissapear before then? Were they in the public links or another list?


So far as we know, Bevin and Seret were before the testing of the random hoods, and then Cyan tested the random hoods in Choru, and then... forgot about those two hoods, and many have wanted that bit of Uru's history "Back".

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3) Did the early hoods have the nexus books placed in terminals that let you insert your KI to add the link (as in beta video clips and in "To D'ni")?


Hms, good question.

EccentricOne wrote:
4) Were the "DRC Neighborhoods" around back then or was "Until Uru" their first appearance?


Hms, again, good question. =P

EccentricOne wrote:
5) Did Cyan name any of the hoods created after Seret?


Kirel?


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Can we get one minkata sparkly with that order? :lol:

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Sounds good to me, Cyan already has a fixed prp, that will allow it to work. Its sitting attached to the bug report, right now. =)


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Would you mind if I linked this thread http://mystonline.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20380 to your thread over here, as they have a similar want?

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you're quite welcome to add a link in, of course. =)


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Ok thank you!

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kaelisebonrai wrote:
Would there be any real interest in new link in the City links in the nexus, with Bevin, (as in the "real" Bevin, by "the "real" Bevin" I mean the first location explorers other than the DRC visited, in D'ni. I do not mean "oh, just another public hood", I mean the real D'ni neighbourhood, named Bevin. ) and Seret, the second of the neighbourhoods visited by explorers, ever, in D'ni.


YES PLEASE.

We already have Kirel as a distinct location. Especially with newer explorers not knowing what "Bevin" means, being able to visit the Bevin as a historical location would be better, and instructive.

I don't even need anything special to be there. Kirel is unique because of its different colour scheme, different textures, and it's a mirror image of the neighbourhoods we have, as well as being the storehouse for Guild-related information. Bevin and Seret could be rendered similarly unique down the road (particularly if more Guilds are opened up) but just having them there would make me happy.

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Yes to all of these.

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Yes, please. Also, it doesn't seem terribly unreasonable to have Dr. Watson's speech from To D'ni available for playback in Bevin. If not in audio form (since I'm not sure if that would play nicely with multiplayer) perhaps just a nice transcript sitting on the podium.

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While I am totally all for this-

Keep in mind RAWA has said that using the new system they have implemented, if they want to rename "Beven" to neighborhood, "Neighborhood" would be too many characters- they'd have to use the term "Hood" or something.

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I would prefer a "Neighborhood" tab with "SoAndSo's" as the title. In the nieghborhood, it would still have "SoAndSo's Neighborhood." That seems as easy as renaming "Public" links (or whatever tab hold neighborhoods now) to "Neighborhoods" and cutting off anything after the owner's name.

I'd also like to see the return of Neighborhood "Mayors" who could change the hood's name.

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