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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:46 am 
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korovev wrote:
The original Stranger is... Keith Richards. He wrote Jumpin’ Jack Flash about his childhood during the Fall.


The thing messes me up is time traveling through linking.
I know its possible because of Myst Island Observatory dates
and Rymes crystal viewer, there is a island that changes when you change
around the crystals, is it the same island with every change or is it a
completely different island your looking at after you made a change?
anyway...

The original Stranger was Dr. Who :mrgreen:


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I detest the use of Time Travel in any story and will do my level best to find an explanation that does not involve it.

Because time travel is a blank cheque to the authors and removes any mystery , tension, and interest from a story.

You don't like what's happening? Go back and make it didn't happen.

Our Heros are trapped with no hope of escape? Change the past and provide an exit door.

Time travel is *always* more trouble than it is worth, to any author with a moderately long point of view.

I'll give Dr. Who a pass because the Doctor is clearly not in control of the TARDIS, and also has an increasingly strict set of scruples with regard to changing history....

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:24 am 
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Alan D wrote;
I'll give Dr. Who a pass because the Doctor is clearly not in control of the TARDIS, and also has an increasingly strict set of scruples with regard to changing history....


The Great Tree of possibility with each branch holding many leafs holding,
Ages (at different Times) & Dimentions ( there are like 7 other dimentions that we know about )

To find a age that a Descriptive book tells about might need too either go back
or forward in Time to find the closest match.

The Bahro could link at will, even to the 'same age' but appear in a different location!

The D'ni would have to of wrote a separate linking book for each location they wanted
to arrive at, In the same age to get the same like effect.

But as the TARDIS the ART is the same because you can't control what the final Age or
Time will be, there is always that element of the Unknown and surprise that awaits you
once you link through or the Tardis comes to a stop and you open the door.

The fact that the single player games brought you to Atrus and Yeesha etc. when they were
still young and full of life, that is Time travel IMO.

The ART links you to the Age you wrote, now for the mechanizim that makes the Art work
it has been said the Bahro are somehow involved with making the D'ni descriptive book
link become active! ( visualize each leaf having this (invisible to the human eye) golden
thread attached to it and so does the D'ni Descriptive book, the Bahro take the strings
and attach the Dbook thread to a leaf (age) thread.

The D'ni after the fall gave up the Art but none could break or hold that Great Stone that
held the Bahro captive in this Dimention Time and place (on the Tree of Possibility),
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I found out what happened to the Myst Movie,

IMO, Myst Movie people should have just stuck with the pen drawing concept
video and finished it as a anime movie Myst Movie, Do the real life acting etc.
for a later possibility.

Then they would have been left alone by all those who would want to change things
and if they did not, then they don't get any funding or backing etc. which is BS IMHO.
AND thus totally ruining the whole project with wasted time and money waiting,
waiting for correspondence etc. and more waiting and then its a no go after you've
changed out everything in the script etc etc.. AAHHHHHHHHHHH!!! In laymans terms
this is what happened to persons making the 'Myst Movie' went through,

Enough was enough so they left it there and walked away.
Because they did not have enough money to make the whole movie independently
so they had to seek out MAFIAA to try to get a deal to help make their
Myst Movie. Bad move! because it killed the project, but some valuable lessons were
also learned. All the MAFIAA care about is MONEY period. Maybe they should have
talked to the director and producer of Babylon 5 to learn how to keep your script YOURS
and how to keep others from changing every dam thing because of 'What ever!'

Maybe Myst Movie people could finish the pen and ink animation with parts 2,3,4 etc.
one can only hope. ;)


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AlanD wrote:
I detest the use of Time Travel in any story and will do my level best to find an explanation that does not involve it.
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Time travel is *always* more trouble than it is worth, to any author with a moderately long point of view.

Not always, there are in fact many stories where time travel does provide mystery and tension, from the Time Patrol novels by P. Anderson to 12 Monkeys by T. Gilliam.

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Time travel wouldn't be the issue that it is if people and authors didn't insist on believing the troubling paradox that changes ripple forward in time instead of taking the multiverse view that change branches to a new timeline and universe, leaving all other timeline branches intact as they were. Kill your grandfather? No problem. You remain alive because you are a product of a different universe than the one where he is dead and you don't exist. This is how you are both unconceived (in the new timeline) and alive (from your own timeline of origin).

If I wrote a time travel story, it might be where you and your consciousness live to the fullest extent of your natural lifespan as you take each branch of life while those around you see you die as the multiverse conspires to kill you at every probable (quantum mechanics) opportunity. Ever think you're lucky you didn't die when you almost got run over by a bus? You did. And a bunch of people in some timeline somewhere remember you fondly. But they could take comfort that you still live in a new timeline removed from theirs.

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Wow, that is a very cool idea, JW.

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Yeah, we're all more and more and eventually getting there ... very nice, JW ... :D

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