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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:13 pm 
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Tree FAQ

* The tree is a Pinus Ponderosa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinus_ponderosa tree. Some people also call it Big Tree, Relto Tree or Kadish Tree. The Uru code and logs refer to Ponderosa or Pondorosa (typo). Don't call it Bonanza Tree! :]

* The tree needs *no* water to grow. You don't have to turn on the rain page in order to make the tree grow. Rain doesn't speed up the process.

* The tree has ten different sizes. At first the tree is hard to notice and really small. The third size is as large as the other trees. Starting from the size four you can easily distinguish the tree from the other trees in your Relto.

* The tree grows every 15 days. Turning the rain page off or on doesn't chance how fast the tree grows.

* Enabling or disabling the Relto page doesn't affect the size and grow rate of the tree. The tree doesn't shrink when the Relto page is disabled. The page only switches the visibility and collision frame of the tree.

* The tree grows without observation. It will grow by two sizes if you are absence from your Relto for a month.

The informations were obtained by studying the Python code of Until Uru and verified in MOUL about a week ago. The behavior may chance in the future.

A few weeks ago I used a trick I will *not* reveal to take pictures of the ten sizes. Here is a link to a collage with all ten sizes: http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/5357/moulponderosaqx8.jpg

EDIT: Fixed typos
EDIT: Updated FAQ

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I used (probably) the same "trick" unintentionally a few days ago and now have a fully grown tree in my Relto. I want to get the tree back to its proper size, but can't seem to find a way to do so. I will be submitting this as a bug report, but wondered if anyone out there has found a way to re-shrink the tree...

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Seagull wrote:
I used (probably) the same "trick" unintentionally a few days ago and now have a fully grown tree in my Relto. I want to get the tree back to its proper size, but can't seem to find a way to do so. I will be submitting this as a bug report, but wondered if anyone out there has found a way to re-shrink the tree...


You can't reshrink the tree. The last size of the tree is stored in the vault (database).

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If you deactivate the tree growing page from your Relto book when its in one of the middle stages, what happens?

Does the tree stay where it is and stop growing, or does it shrink and then regrow to previous state when you reactivate the page, or what?


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@Seagull:

Maybe that helps: open the KI and type:

/get power saw

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:lol: @ juri1at

Can you turn off the Relto page, then go to Kadish and pick it up again? Will that give you a baby tree?


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It's familiar name is Ponderosa pine. And the reason for its presence in the game is no doubt (loosely) related to this fact:
Wiki entry on Pinus ponderosa wrote:
Pinus ponderosa was first discovered by David Douglas in 1826 in eastern Washington near where the city of Spokane now lies. This is within the area of the "North Plateau race", and this therefore is the type subspecies.


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I'm going to dig deeper next week. As far as I remember the tree can't shrink like a real tree and it grows when the page is disabled.

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Neat topic! Can't wait to see what happens next with this.


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what do you do if your tree is not growing at all?


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Musicteachersheff wrote:
what do you do if your tree is not growing at all?


Do you have the tree at all? To have the tree you need:
[spoiler]the Relto Page from Kadish.[/spoiler]
Secondly, have you waited 15 days? Are you sure you are looking in the right spot?

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I'm sure he is in the same boat as me. I have yet to get my tree to properly grow, in all the years I've played Uru. Even in the standalone version, the tree never grew. I've had the tree since the last vault wipe and it has been the same size since that day.

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Interesting fact - I have the page tree (Page tree?) sorry Tree Page and I have a wee little tree growing between the two pillars of my hut door, but a foot or so out from the steps. :shock:

I'm certain that was not there before - has anyone else got one?


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No...I have three pines out on the "front yard" though, pretty close to each other.


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